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As the Commish crumbles: Stories questioning the NFL's alleged evidence
Posted on 5/8/12 at 11:53 am
Posted on 5/8/12 at 11:53 am
Ornstein Email a "joke"
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Hargrove: NFL grossly mischaracterized words:
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NFL Withholding evidence to "protect" informants
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The Anthony Hargrove declaration is complete dud (league blatantly lied about contents):
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Vitt Denies he told Hargrove to lie
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League blatantly misrepresented Gregg Williams interviews:
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Viking Kennedy says Hargrove mentioned nothing to him about bounties:
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Scott Fujita strikes back:
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Vilma's lawyers ask for info, actual evidence:
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Lance Briggs: Vilma suspension is BS
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NFL has given very limited evidence to NFLPA:
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Hargrove: NFL grossly mischaracterized words:
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NFL Withholding evidence to "protect" informants
LINK
The Anthony Hargrove declaration is complete dud (league blatantly lied about contents):
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quote:
And so, when the NFL said last week in the announcement of the suspensions of Hargrove and three other players that the declaration “established not only the existence of the program with the Saints, but also that he knew about and participated in it,” that statement was blatantly incorrect. And when “independent” counsel Mary Jo White explained in a conference call last week that the “thrust” of the declaration was Hargrove’s acknowledgment of “the nature of the program and his participation in it,” that was blatantly incorrect, too.
Vitt Denies he told Hargrove to lie
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League blatantly misrepresented Gregg Williams interviews:
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Viking Kennedy says Hargrove mentioned nothing to him about bounties:
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Scott Fujita strikes back:
LINK /
Vilma's lawyers ask for info, actual evidence:
LINK /
Lance Briggs: Vilma suspension is BS
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NFL has given very limited evidence to NFLPA:
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This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:59 am
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 11:55 am to Fun Bunch
Btw, if you're attempting to do an ATPB type thread, you might wanna keep some spaces open.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 11:56 am to Jcorye1
Posted on 5/8/12 at 11:59 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:01 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
you might wanna keep some spaces open.
What do you mean?
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:03 pm to Hoodoo Man
like he should have saved the first couple spots, meaning where Jcoryce is right now Fun Bunch should have posted so if his original spot can't fit all the material it would just roll over into that one.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:12 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
What do you mean?
It was a both suggestion and tongue in cheek humor at the horrendous thread that was As the Plains Burn.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:15 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
As the Plains Burn.
I agree, that was horrendous.
But this is the antithesis to that thread.
That thread was all about wild speculation, guilty-before-innocent, and schadenfreude.
This thread will be about picking apart the NFL's story.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:23 pm to Fun Bunch
This thread is/was needed. 
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:25 pm to Hoodoo Man
Ehh you could argue this thread is all speculation as well for now.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:28 pm to lighter345
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you could argue this thread is all speculation as well for now.
I wouldn't argue that.
Would you?
Posted on 5/8/12 at 12:33 pm to lighter345
Not really.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 1:14 pm to jdrumdog
I guess not I'm hungover talkin out of my arse. Im just thinking that everything is he said she said right now so we don't know anything really.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 1:44 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
ATPB type thread
Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:00 pm to Fun Bunch
thread of the year. 
i am requesting sticky to be enacted until we see evidence of the crimes
i am requesting sticky to be enacted until we see evidence of the crimes
Posted on 5/8/12 at 3:02 pm to lighter345
Great article from Reilly.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:32 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I don't have time to read all the articles, really wish I did lol.
The Anthony Hargrove declaration is complete dud (league blatantly lied about contents):
Can someone simply tell me what did the NFL say that was a lie?
And if there was a link to the article where the NFL said it, that would be even better.
xoxo
Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:36 pm to shel311
quote:
: "In [the declaration], he acknowledges the nature of the program and his participation in it. And, which was really the thrust of the declaration, that he was told to lie about it and he did when he was asked about it in 2010 by the NFL investigators."
He never admits to the bounty program in the declaration, nor does he admit to actually lying
This post was edited on 5/8/12 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:45 pm to TigerBait1127
Exactly.
Hargrove calls it a "so-called bounty program". He never confirms that there was one of any kind in place.
He never says he was told to lie, only to "get their story straight" because the league "has been out to get" GW for a long time.
He never says he was told to tell lies. Period.
The NFL used it as a smoking gun and represented that AH caracterized the entire system and the cover up. Nothing could be further from the truth.
How the NFL isnt getting crucified for it is beyond me.
Hargrove calls it a "so-called bounty program". He never confirms that there was one of any kind in place.
He never says he was told to lie, only to "get their story straight" because the league "has been out to get" GW for a long time.
He never says he was told to tell lies. Period.
The NFL used it as a smoking gun and represented that AH caracterized the entire system and the cover up. Nothing could be further from the truth.
How the NFL isnt getting crucified for it is beyond me.
Posted on 5/8/12 at 8:45 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:Thanks.
He never admits to the bounty program in the declaration, nor does he admit to actually lying
shite, now i have to go read this damn declaration.
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