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re: Anyone bought furniture from Ashley Furniture a couple of weekends ago?

Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7218 posts
Posted on 9/12/12 at 11:59 pm to
Someone in the office said olindes confirmed it...Will check in the AM
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Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43663 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:28 am to
they shouldnt have to honor it.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33449 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:17 am to
The key to this lawsuit is:

"the play is certified and recorded as such by the Designated Event governing officials"

Basically, it all depends on how the NFL records it in their records.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33449 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:21 am to
The key to this lawsuit is:

"the play is certified and recorded as such by the Designated Event governing officials"

Basically, it all depends on how the NFL records it in their records.

1. Eligible player on designated return team (all 11 players are eligible - check)
2. 1st punt (check)
3. touchdown (check)
4. receives and returns (depends on definition)

Posted by blackandgoldGOD
Member since Oct 2010
1036 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:47 am to
Has anyone sued these clowns yet?
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22785 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:49 am to
quote:

4. receives and returns (depends on definition)


Did he, technically, receive a punt or did he receive a punt block?
Posted by tigersaint26
In front of my computer
Member since Sep 2005
1510 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Did he, technically, receive a punt or did he receive a punt block


Does it matter? The wording says receives. It was punted, it was blocked, it was received by our player, it was then returned for a touchdown.

No where in the language does it say the ball had to cross the line of scrimmage. Never said he had to receive a punt that went 30 yards.

By all rights they punted the ball to us, then we stopped it before it crossed the LOS, then we received it, then we returned it for a TD.
Posted by iwasthere
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2010
1882 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Does it matter? The wording says receives. It was punted, it was blocked, it was received by our player, it was then returned for a touchdown.

No where in the language does it say the ball had to cross the line of scrimmage. Never said he had to receive a punt that went 30 yards.

By all rights they punted the ball to us, then we stopped it before it crossed the LOS, then we received it, then we returned it for a TD.


None of what you said matters. The NFL didn't rule it a punt return for a TD. You can slice it all you want, but the rules clearly stated that it has to be officially recorded as a punt return TD. It was not.
Posted by xLxSxUxFxAxNx
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
58623 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Basically, it all depends on how the NFL records it in their records.


exactly.

LINK

saints have no punt returns for TD's this year according to the official NFL site and stats.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 5:35 pm to
It should count! Think of it this way, what if we would have only "tipped" the punt when blocking and it still would have went 30 yds and our guy catches it on the run and scores a td.

It is the exact same thing, excepts it was soundly blocked
Posted by Meaux Bettah
Tiger Nation
Member since Nov 2011
2591 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 7:21 pm to
Saints scored a td on the punt, end of story.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56674 posts
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

The key to this lawsuit is:

"the play is certified and recorded as such by the Designated Event governing officials"




correct

quote:

Basically, it all depends on how the NFL records it in their records.



A blocked punt is not and has never been considered a punt return.
Posted by BasClas
Member since Feb 2007
7881 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 6:06 am to
The ball must cross the line of scrimmage in order to be considered a kick.

But I think that in order to maintain good business, Olindes should honor the deal anyway and not be so damned technical.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16512 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 9:24 am to
This has nothing to do with Olindes honoring it or not. The Insurance Company they are working this through has the final say so. This was clearly not by any sane persons account,a punt return for a TD. The fact that many people have the want to "get over on the man with their hand out" is whats gotten this country in the shape it is now...........
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17615 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 3:26 pm to
if i had purchased furniture,i would have no problem with it. If the NFL stats don't say punt return for TD then it wasn't a punt return for a TD. It was a blocked punt RECOVERED for a TD. i.e. as clarified by NFL rules, it never crossed the LOS, therefore making it a recovery not a reception.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56674 posts
Posted on 9/14/12 at 4:33 pm to
Equating this to a punt return for a td would be like equating a sack and fumble return to an interception return.
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
5406 posts
Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:02 am to
Shouldnt be any different than when the punt returner fumbles the ball and then picks it back up and runs it in for a touchdown!
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
5406 posts
Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:07 am to
quote:

f i had purchased furniture,i would have no problem with it. If the NFL stats don't say punt return for TD then it wasn't a punt return for a TD. It was a blocked punt RECOVERED for a TD. i.e. as clarified by NFL rules, it never crossed the LOS, therefore making it a recovery not a reception.


Shouldnt matter that it was blocked ...what matters is it was "punted" and "returned" for a "touchdown"

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56674 posts
Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:19 am to
quote:

Shouldnt matter that it was blocked ...what matters is it was "punted" and "returned" for a "touchdown"



Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 9/18/12 at 4:25 pm to
bump


Whats the latest on this? Did anyone get PAID!

IMO you can't have a "blocked punt" if there wasn't a punt.

And the NFL does record the yardage of the "return" of a blocked punt.....ie, blocked and returned 35 yds to the 1...
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