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Ziller Ranks all the Free Agents

Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:47 pm
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:47 pm
All 179 FA this summer

Here are the FA Pels:

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#25. Eric Gordon The Pelicans’ highest-paid player has a chance to lock in another long, rich deal. What a weird career he’s had, though. He had his best shooting season ever in 2014-15, but he’s really stopped driving to the rim much and has gone from a 20-point scorer to a 13-point scorer in just a few years. (He’s still only 26.) If Gordon is put into a position to rediscover his once prodigious dribble-drive game to pair with his tremendous shooting stroke, he can be a top-7 two-guard. Otherwise, he’s turning into an Anthony Morrow. That’s fine, but that’s not worth $15 million. UPDATE: Gordon picked up his player option.


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#47 Omer Asik Unrestricted

It’s time to start asking whether Asik is even a good team defender. He looked great in Chicago, but so does everyone. Houston’s defense improved a bunch this season despite Asik’s flight and Dwight Howard being injured, while New Orleans’ defense was not great with Asik and Anthony Davis up front. I’m newly skeptical of Asik’s NBA usefulness.


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#70 Norris Cole Restricted

Surprisingly competent in NoLa. Two-time NBA champion.


Ajinca comes in at 97 with no comment. Jimmer is 141 with "Sigh." And Babbitt/Withey come in at 146 and 151 respectively.

Some of the potential Targets Mentioned here and elsewhere:

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#14. Danny Green Unrestricted

Green is the youngest 27-year-old on the planet. He still doesn’t even have 10,000 total NBA minutes under his belt. He’s also never been paid more than $4 million in a season. Little attention has been paid to Green as San Antonio opens up its books in search of another star to pair with Kawhi Leonard for the next four years. For that reason, Green feels eminently gettable. He’s only one of the league’s most prolific and effective deep shooters and an excellent defender. He should command upwards of $12 million a year.


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#20. Khris Middleton Restricted

Middleton looks like the classic role player who gets massively overpaid based on one really good season, a la Bobby Simmons. Here’s how Middleton is different: he’ll be just 24 next season with two strong deep-shooting seasons and he’s excelled under two (very) different coaches. He’s more proven than you think. Given the future of the salary cap, you wonder if a team will throw $15 million per year or more at him to see if Milwaukee blinks.


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#22. DeMarre Carroll Unrestricted

Carroll is similar to Middleton but older (29 in July) and with a stronger defensive reputation. He’s also unrestricted, which could lead to a massive payday. LeBron thoroughly dominated him in the playoffs, though he was playing through an injury. It’s hard to hold that against Carroll — who doesn’t LeBron dominate? — but it’ll be something teams consider heavily before backing up the armored truck in free agency.


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#27. Tobias Harris Restricted

Harris probably felt pretty good about returning to Orlando until they hired his old coach, Scott Skiles. He's a solid No. 2 scorer and mid-range shooter. It’s fitting that he’s been linked to the Knicks; he’s a (very) poor man’s Carmelo Anthony



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#30. Jae Crowder Restricted

Sign him to a modest contract around the mid-level, invest in a shooting coach, ask him to defend the opponents’ best wing every night and see where you are in two years. This is the type of player you chase if you want to grab a Middleton or Carroll before they are getting serious paper.


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#32. Tyson Chandler Unrestricted

Chandler isn’t too worn out to anchor a defense. He is too old to be the only decent defender on a team. He’d be super interesting as a (potentially) cheaper alternative to Omer Asik and a mentor in New Orleans.


Posted by txbd
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:49 pm to
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#32. Tyson Chandler Unrestricted


Would flap
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61483 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 2:52 pm to
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Otherwise, he’s turning into an Anthony Morrow.


Does Ziller read PT?

And Chanlder cheaper than Asik? That'd be surprising.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17715 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:09 pm to
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quote: #25. Eric Gordon The Pelicans’ highest-paid player has a chance to lock in another long, rich deal. What a weird career he’s had, though. He had his best shooting season ever in 2014-15, but he’s really stopped driving to the rim much and has gone from a 20-point scorer to a 13-point scorer in just a few years. (He’s still only 26.) If Gordon is put into a position to rediscover his once prodigious dribble-drive game to pair with his tremendous shooting stroke, he can be a top-7 two-guard. Otherwise, he’s turning into an Anthony Morrow. That’s fine, but that’s not worth $15 million. UPDATE: Gordon picked up his player option.


That part of Gordon's game is gone. He's a step slower and not as explosive going to the rim. He's gonna be a catch and shoot guy from now on. If he keeps shooting at around the same %, I'm ok with it.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11895 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:18 pm to
If we could get Chandler for our cap room by renouncing Asik, I would be very happy.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61483 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:19 pm to
Asik gets you about $5,5 million in cap space, roughly the MLE. You'd have to give up more than Asik to get Chandler.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11895 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:40 pm to
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Asik gets you about $5,5 million in cap space, roughly the MLE. You'd have to give up more than Asik to get Chandler.
You're right, that is not enough.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:27 pm to
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Does Ziller read PT?




His Austin Rivers write up was classic.

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71. Austin Rivers

The entire market for Austin Rivers is his dad’s team. So yeah. It’d be hilarious, though, if another squad got into a fake bidding war just to see how high Doc would go.



Aminu too

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46. Al-Farouq Aminu

Unrestricted; Player option ($1.1 million)

Defense matters. This is a good thing for Al-Farouq Aminu, because he’s actually allergic to the ball.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:37 pm to
I agree on the athleticism. It's gone. The question is can he adjust his game to reflect this new reality and be more effective than we've seen in NO off the bounce?

I think there's room for improvement once he realizes he can't blow by guys any more, but we'll see.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38755 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:27 pm to
I'm not sure how to describe it but Gordon dribbles/drives awkwardly to me...like he's squared up more than trying to slash. he gets in a crouch with his legs spread and tries to bulldog his way in

That's probably a poor way to describe it, but I never get the impression that Gordon has a step on his guy
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38755 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 5:38 pm to
maybe he's got an Andre miller type post game in him waiting to be unleashed?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63492 posts
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:18 pm to
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I agree on the athleticism. It's gone.


I'm interested to see what a full off season with relative health does for him. You may be right, but we'll see.
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