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Win prediction line is at 44.5 games for the Pelicans
Posted on 10/3/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 10/3/22 at 4:04 pm
According to Vegas right now. You going over or under? For reference, that's a 9th place in the West prediction. What's your take?
Boston Celtics 53.5
Milwaukee Bucks 52.5
Phoenix Suns 52.5
Los Angeles Clippers 52.5
Golden State Warriors 51.5
Philadelphia 76ers 50.5
Brooklyn Nets 50.5
Denver Nuggets 49.5
Memphis Grizzlies 48.5
Dallas Mavericks 48.5
Miami Heat 48.5
Minnesota Timberwolves 48.5
Cleveland Cavaliers 47.5
Atlanta Hawks 45.5
Los Angeles Lakers 45.5
Toronto Raptors 45.5
New Orleans Pelicans 44.5
Chicago Bulls 42.5
Portland Trail Blazers 39.5
All Star update: Pelicans need to finish 15-7 to hit the over. How's the board feeling about their odds?
*15-8 I blew the math
Boston Celtics 53.5
Milwaukee Bucks 52.5
Phoenix Suns 52.5
Los Angeles Clippers 52.5
Golden State Warriors 51.5
Philadelphia 76ers 50.5
Brooklyn Nets 50.5
Denver Nuggets 49.5
Memphis Grizzlies 48.5
Dallas Mavericks 48.5
Miami Heat 48.5
Minnesota Timberwolves 48.5
Cleveland Cavaliers 47.5
Atlanta Hawks 45.5
Los Angeles Lakers 45.5
Toronto Raptors 45.5
New Orleans Pelicans 44.5
Chicago Bulls 42.5
Portland Trail Blazers 39.5
All Star update: Pelicans need to finish 15-7 to hit the over. How's the board feeling about their odds?
*15-8 I blew the math
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 8:27 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 4:09 pm to Thundercles
Over, we getting at least 49 wins and the 4th seed
Posted on 10/3/22 at 5:01 pm to Thundercles
before betting
id wait and see if ingram plays even one preseason game as he recovers from his toe injury.
I'd rather not bet on 44.5. I would bet pels do better than lakers.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 5:16 pm to Thundercles
quote:
4Denver Nuggets 49.5
5Memphis Grizzlies 48.5
6Dallas Mavericks 48.5
Miami Heat 48.5
7Minnesota Timberwolves 48.5
5 6 and 7 would be decided by tie breaker record in conference? coin flips?
one gets Denver.
one gets gsw.
one gets play in games and zion or lebron and
cp3 or kawhi.
great conference.
no doubt .
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:56 pm to Thundercles
Phoenix seems to have many problems.
Jae wants to be traded.
Ayton and Williams don't have a good relationship.
Probably Suns doesn't like Ayton's max contract.
And...Robert Sarver.
I don't think they will be 1st but 3 or 4.
Jae wants to be traded.
Ayton and Williams don't have a good relationship.
Probably Suns doesn't like Ayton's max contract.
And...Robert Sarver.
I don't think they will be 1st but 3 or 4.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:05 pm to Soggymoss
Yeah I'd take the over if healthy but I think the multiple injury risks are baked into the seemingly low Pels projection.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 10:15 pm to Parrish
I wouldn’t bet this season. This team stays healthy, then I’d hit the over faster than lightning but it’s a big if. A healthy Pels are good enough to shock the West this year.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:00 pm to Thundercles
I'm slamming that over.
I think I'd also take the under pretty confidently on the Suns.
I think I'd also take the under pretty confidently on the Suns.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 11:20 pm to _Hurricane_
quote:weak
I wouldn’t bet this season.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:19 am to Thundercles
Under.
Guess we are not getting that pick swap with the Lakers this season.
Guess we are not getting that pick swap with the Lakers this season.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:00 am to PUB
quote:
Under
betting today on a line set before season. looks like time machine, Biff.
can someone liven the thread with the current o/u bettors are offered?
fwiw it would require 15-8 to finish at 45 wins.
as of now zion is not playing and its unknown if or when he can again play full court basketball.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 8:08 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:13 am to CelticDog
Count Zion out for the rest of the season. He played his 20 games for the year and just like the last 4 seasons, he is resting as part of his offseason conditioning.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:22 am to PUB
Current odds:
Atlanta Hawks: 41.5 (-115)
The Hawks (29-30) turned things around in January when Clint Capela returned from injury and they’ve hovered around .500 since they rattled off five straight wins.
Boston Celtics: 57.5 (-135)
The Celtics (42-17) are only 0.5 games ahead of the Bucks for the top spot in the Eastern Conference, so they should be pushed to win at least 17 of their final 23 games to top this total.
Brooklyn Nets: 45.5 (-124)
The Nets (34-24) were in trouble when Kevin Durant (MCL) got injured and their projection has actually gone down after they traded Kyrie Irving and Durant. They hold a 7.5-game lead over Chicago to avoid falling out of the play-in tournament entirely.
Charlotte Hornets: 23.5 (+110)
The Hornets (17-43) are one of the least efficient teams on both ends of the floor and they’re clearly aiming to sink towards the bottom to increase their odds at a high draft pick.
Chicago Bulls: 36.5 (-110)
The Bulls (26-33) stood pat at the trade deadline and continue to struggle in the much-improved Eastern Conference. There are varying projections offered for Chicago with FanDuel offering +100 on the Bulls to top 38.5 wins.
Cleveland Cavaliers: 50.5 (-122)
The Cavs (38-23) went on a 7-game win streak against some poor teams before losing in Philadelphia before the break. They’re 23-7 against teams with losing records and have the fourth-easiest remaining schedule.
Dallas Mavericks: 44.5 (-130)
Most books are offering plus odds for the Mavs to top this total after they lost their first three games with both Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving active. Dallas has the easiest remaining schedule with three games left against the tanking Spurs.
Denver Nuggets: 56.5 (+100)
The Nuggets (41-18) have been virtually unbeatable at home with a 27-4 record and Nikola Jokic is dominating the NBA once again en route to a third straight MVP award.
Detroit Pistons: 20.5 (-125)
The Pistons (12-37) shut down Cade Cunningham (shin) for the season and rank 29th in defensive rating with the worst record in the Eastern Conference.
Golden State Warriors: 42.5 (+105)
The Warriors (29-29) are still struggling with a 7-22 road record and Steph Curry (knee) is expected to miss a few more weeks. The defending champs are capable of going on a run to avoid the play-in tournament.
Houston Rockets: 18.5 (+120)
The Rockets (13-45) have the worst record in the NBA and the lowest current projected win total with +120 odds at BetRivers to get to 20 wins.
Indiana Pacers: 35.5 (+106)
The Pacers (26-34) have lost 16 of their last 19 games and lost 10 of 11 with Tyrese Haliburton (elbow) out. They have two games left against each of the top four teams in the Eastern Conference.
Los Angeles Clippers: 45.5 (-105)
The Clippers (33-28) will probably still fall short of their preseason projection of 52.5 wins, but they seem like a great bet to win at least 12 of their final 21 games to secure a top seed in the West.
Los Angeles Lakers: 39.5 (-141)
LeBron James and Anthony Davis finally got some help at the trade deadline and now they can try to get the Lakers (27-32) into the play-in picture and perhaps a bit higher in the standings.
Memphis Grizzlies: 49.5 (-115)
The Grizzlies (35-22) dropped from a projection of 53.5 wins to 49.5 wins over the past month since they’re 4-12 over their last 16 games and struggling without anchor Steven Adams.
Miami Heat: 44.5 (-110)
The Heat (32-27) continued to struggle with continuity and they were missing Kyle Lowry and Tyler Herro for key games leading into the break. Miami is 19-10 at home and has 12 more home games down the stretch.
Milwaukee Bucks: 55.5 (-130)
When Giannis Antetokounmpo came back from knee soreness, the Bucks hit another gear and rattled off a 12-game win streak leading into the break. Giannis suffered a sprained wrist in their final game but should be good to go after the break.
Minnesota Timberwolves: 40.5 (-110)
The Wolves (31-30) parted ways with D’Angelo Russel in exchange for a veteran PG in Mike Conley. They’re a much better defensive team this year, but are struggling to find offense outside of Anthony Edwards.
New Orleans Pelicans: 42.5 (+100)
The Pelicans (30-29) have dropped from third to seventh in the West with Zion Williamson (hamstring) out and the explosive forward is still without a timetable for his return.
New York Knicks: 43.5 (-115)
With Jalen Brunson leading the charge, the Knicks (33-27) have been hot over the past few weeks and they need to keep winning to stay out of the play-in picture. New York has the eighth-toughest remaining schedule.
Oklahoma City Thunder: 38.5 (-110)
The Thunder (28-29) currently hold the final spot in the Western Conference play-in and they have the fifth-easiest schedule by winning percentage, but have four remaining games against a Suns team that just acquired Kevin Durant.
Orlando Magic: 33.5 (-110)
The Magic (24-33) have a rising win projection as they continue to push top teams to the brink and even score a few upsets.
Philadelphia 76ers: 51.5 (-115)
The Sixers (38-19) have the toughest remaining schedule by win percentage with two matchups left against the Bucks and Celtcs. They’re 18-5 since Jan 1 and 15-9 this season against teams with winning records.
Phoenix Suns: 45.5 (-125)
The Suns (32-28) will integrate Kevin Durant sometime after the break and look to improve on their status as the fifth seed in the West. They would have to win 14 of their final 22 games to top this total.
Portland Trail Blazers: 39.5 (+106)
The Blazers (28-30) have the worst defensive rating in the NBA over their last 20 games, which has negated otherworldly offensive numbers from Damian Lillard during that span.
Sacramento Kings: 44.5 (+110)
The Kings (32-25) are on pace to snap their 16-year playoff drought with De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis keying the highest-scoring offense in the league.
San Antonio Spurs: 20.5 (+100)
The Spurs (14-45) have dropped 18 of their last 20 games and traded their best interior defender, Jakob Poeltl, at the trade deadline.
Toronto Raptors: 39.5 (-110)
The Raptors (28-31) won five of their last six heading into the break to maintain their status in the play-in picture. With Pascal Siakam playing at an All-NBA level again, they could move up in the standings.
Utah Jazz: 39.5 (+110)
The Jazz (29-31) have been sputtering lately and they’re far thinner since they moved three key pieces at the trade deadline. Utah has four matchups left against the Thunder and three against the Spurs.
Washington Wizards: 39.5 (-110)
The Wizards (28-30) are coming alive with Kyle Kuzma and Bradley Beal relatively healthy alongside Kristaps Porzingis. They’re fully capable of winning 12 of their final 24 games.
Atlanta Hawks: 41.5 (-115)
The Hawks (29-30) turned things around in January when Clint Capela returned from injury and they’ve hovered around .500 since they rattled off five straight wins.
Boston Celtics: 57.5 (-135)
The Celtics (42-17) are only 0.5 games ahead of the Bucks for the top spot in the Eastern Conference, so they should be pushed to win at least 17 of their final 23 games to top this total.
Brooklyn Nets: 45.5 (-124)
The Nets (34-24) were in trouble when Kevin Durant (MCL) got injured and their projection has actually gone down after they traded Kyrie Irving and Durant. They hold a 7.5-game lead over Chicago to avoid falling out of the play-in tournament entirely.
Charlotte Hornets: 23.5 (+110)
The Hornets (17-43) are one of the least efficient teams on both ends of the floor and they’re clearly aiming to sink towards the bottom to increase their odds at a high draft pick.
Chicago Bulls: 36.5 (-110)
The Bulls (26-33) stood pat at the trade deadline and continue to struggle in the much-improved Eastern Conference. There are varying projections offered for Chicago with FanDuel offering +100 on the Bulls to top 38.5 wins.
Cleveland Cavaliers: 50.5 (-122)
The Cavs (38-23) went on a 7-game win streak against some poor teams before losing in Philadelphia before the break. They’re 23-7 against teams with losing records and have the fourth-easiest remaining schedule.
Dallas Mavericks: 44.5 (-130)
Most books are offering plus odds for the Mavs to top this total after they lost their first three games with both Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving active. Dallas has the easiest remaining schedule with three games left against the tanking Spurs.
Denver Nuggets: 56.5 (+100)
The Nuggets (41-18) have been virtually unbeatable at home with a 27-4 record and Nikola Jokic is dominating the NBA once again en route to a third straight MVP award.
Detroit Pistons: 20.5 (-125)
The Pistons (12-37) shut down Cade Cunningham (shin) for the season and rank 29th in defensive rating with the worst record in the Eastern Conference.
Golden State Warriors: 42.5 (+105)
The Warriors (29-29) are still struggling with a 7-22 road record and Steph Curry (knee) is expected to miss a few more weeks. The defending champs are capable of going on a run to avoid the play-in tournament.
Houston Rockets: 18.5 (+120)
The Rockets (13-45) have the worst record in the NBA and the lowest current projected win total with +120 odds at BetRivers to get to 20 wins.
Indiana Pacers: 35.5 (+106)
The Pacers (26-34) have lost 16 of their last 19 games and lost 10 of 11 with Tyrese Haliburton (elbow) out. They have two games left against each of the top four teams in the Eastern Conference.
Los Angeles Clippers: 45.5 (-105)
The Clippers (33-28) will probably still fall short of their preseason projection of 52.5 wins, but they seem like a great bet to win at least 12 of their final 21 games to secure a top seed in the West.
Los Angeles Lakers: 39.5 (-141)
LeBron James and Anthony Davis finally got some help at the trade deadline and now they can try to get the Lakers (27-32) into the play-in picture and perhaps a bit higher in the standings.
Memphis Grizzlies: 49.5 (-115)
The Grizzlies (35-22) dropped from a projection of 53.5 wins to 49.5 wins over the past month since they’re 4-12 over their last 16 games and struggling without anchor Steven Adams.
Miami Heat: 44.5 (-110)
The Heat (32-27) continued to struggle with continuity and they were missing Kyle Lowry and Tyler Herro for key games leading into the break. Miami is 19-10 at home and has 12 more home games down the stretch.
Milwaukee Bucks: 55.5 (-130)
When Giannis Antetokounmpo came back from knee soreness, the Bucks hit another gear and rattled off a 12-game win streak leading into the break. Giannis suffered a sprained wrist in their final game but should be good to go after the break.
Minnesota Timberwolves: 40.5 (-110)
The Wolves (31-30) parted ways with D’Angelo Russel in exchange for a veteran PG in Mike Conley. They’re a much better defensive team this year, but are struggling to find offense outside of Anthony Edwards.
New Orleans Pelicans: 42.5 (+100)
The Pelicans (30-29) have dropped from third to seventh in the West with Zion Williamson (hamstring) out and the explosive forward is still without a timetable for his return.
New York Knicks: 43.5 (-115)
With Jalen Brunson leading the charge, the Knicks (33-27) have been hot over the past few weeks and they need to keep winning to stay out of the play-in picture. New York has the eighth-toughest remaining schedule.
Oklahoma City Thunder: 38.5 (-110)
The Thunder (28-29) currently hold the final spot in the Western Conference play-in and they have the fifth-easiest schedule by winning percentage, but have four remaining games against a Suns team that just acquired Kevin Durant.
Orlando Magic: 33.5 (-110)
The Magic (24-33) have a rising win projection as they continue to push top teams to the brink and even score a few upsets.
Philadelphia 76ers: 51.5 (-115)
The Sixers (38-19) have the toughest remaining schedule by win percentage with two matchups left against the Bucks and Celtcs. They’re 18-5 since Jan 1 and 15-9 this season against teams with winning records.
Phoenix Suns: 45.5 (-125)
The Suns (32-28) will integrate Kevin Durant sometime after the break and look to improve on their status as the fifth seed in the West. They would have to win 14 of their final 22 games to top this total.
Portland Trail Blazers: 39.5 (+106)
The Blazers (28-30) have the worst defensive rating in the NBA over their last 20 games, which has negated otherworldly offensive numbers from Damian Lillard during that span.
Sacramento Kings: 44.5 (+110)
The Kings (32-25) are on pace to snap their 16-year playoff drought with De’Aaron Fox and Domantas Sabonis keying the highest-scoring offense in the league.
San Antonio Spurs: 20.5 (+100)
The Spurs (14-45) have dropped 18 of their last 20 games and traded their best interior defender, Jakob Poeltl, at the trade deadline.
Toronto Raptors: 39.5 (-110)
The Raptors (28-31) won five of their last six heading into the break to maintain their status in the play-in picture. With Pascal Siakam playing at an All-NBA level again, they could move up in the standings.
Utah Jazz: 39.5 (+110)
The Jazz (29-31) have been sputtering lately and they’re far thinner since they moved three key pieces at the trade deadline. Utah has four matchups left against the Thunder and three against the Spurs.
Washington Wizards: 39.5 (-110)
The Wizards (28-30) are coming alive with Kyle Kuzma and Bradley Beal relatively healthy alongside Kristaps Porzingis. They’re fully capable of winning 12 of their final 24 games.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:55 am to Thundercles
Only 2 teams in the west I can see hitting their overs are Memphis and Denver out of those original 10 from the preseason
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 11:56 am
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:00 pm to MrJimBeam
Those odds show the Lakers in a 3 way tie with the Blazers and Jazz for the 10 seed.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:13 pm to shel311
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Those odds show the Lakers in a 3 way tie with the Blazers and Jazz for the 10 seed.
Technically because the odds are -141 vs +110 and +106, the Lakers have a SLIGHT advantage
But either way, certainly seems Vegas thinks they are on the cusp of the play in still.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:48 pm to shel311
quote:
Those odds show the Lakers in a 3 way tie with the Blazers and Jazz for the 10 seed.
must be some tiebreakers.
it would be delicious if lebron and davis miss the playin on "conference record" or better yet the infamous 6th tie breaker, net point differential by 1 point.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 12:50 pm
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