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Will Demps be gone if we don't make the playoffs?
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:14 pm
Or will he get yet another chance since this is obviously year 1 of a mini-rebuild?
I think you all know where I stand.
This is not a "I want him gone thread"...
But a "WILL he be gone thread?"
I think you all know where I stand.
This is not a "I want him gone thread"...
But a "WILL he be gone thread?"
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:16 pm to Fun Bunch
When does his contract run out?
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:18 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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When does his contract run out?
I don't think we are privy to that information.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:20 pm to Fun Bunch
Hopefully gone he's had enough time to build a playoff team and outside of one year he's failed to do so
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:24 pm to Fun Bunch
Based on the previous standards I think if they hit the Over of 37 he's safe, as long as they look like they're improving. Ferry makes things interesting though. If Loomis fires Demps he doesn't necessarily have to spend his valuable time doing a new GM search which wasn't the case last year.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:26 pm to Fun Bunch
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When does his contract run out?
I don't think we are privy to that information.
The bigger contract impediment is probably Gentry. Do you really want to bring in a new GM without firing the coach? Gentry still has almost $4 million guaranteed after this year. Another reason why Ferry could make sense as a replacement. He might be more willing to put up with Gentry for a year while he puts his plan in place.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:32 pm to TigerinATL
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Do you really want to bring in a new GM without firing the coach? Gentry still has almost $4 million guaranteed after this year. Another reason why Ferry could make sense as a replacement. He might be more willing to put up with Gentry for a year while he puts his plan in place.
I think if you're firing the GM you have to understand that you're giving him the option of firing the coach after this year.
And yes, the Ferry situation is definitely on my mind. He did hire Budenholzer, right? Which is a good hire. His hires in Cleveland are obviously abysmal.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 2:44 pm to TigerinATL
I would think that loomis would either keep both demps and Gentry or neither of them. I can't see anyway he fires one and it the other
Posted on 10/27/16 at 3:09 pm to Fun Bunch
Unless this team makes major improvements in w's and L's this season both Demps and Gentry will be gone.
IMO if they don't get to the high 40's in wins both are gone.
IMO if they don't get to the high 40's in wins both are gone.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:41 pm to Fun Bunch
who knows....monty was playoffs or bust. he made the playoffs and still busted.
verrier was on the dunc'd on pels preview and made it sound like demps is "in" w/ loomis & benson. i can buy that; he's made it this long- why fire him now?
verrier was on the dunc'd on pels preview and made it sound like demps is "in" w/ loomis & benson. i can buy that; he's made it this long- why fire him now?
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:43 pm to corndeaux
Wasn't that "mandate" from woj who has no sources with the pels? I can't remember off hand atm
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:46 pm to corndeaux
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why fire him now?
Because he's been to the playoffs once in 7 years?
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:50 pm to Fun Bunch
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he's been to the playoffs once in 7 years?
after they just let him do a complete roster overhaul this past summer? that doesn't make any sense, then again that hasn't stopped ownership before.
also- who do you think is signing on to gm the pels with Davis's FA on the horizon and a weird ownership group? i'm betting it's a guy that says "hey Demps got 7 years! at least i'll have job security there!"
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:53 pm to LosLobos111
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"mandate" from woj who has no sources with the pels?
yes.
doesn't mean woj just made it up. people talk in the league
Posted on 10/27/16 at 4:54 pm to corndeaux
Monty or Monty's camp was pretty clearly his source at the time.
After this season you have 3 offseasons worth of moves to convince Davis not to force a trade. It will be tight, and if Hill is a bust that makes things more difficult, but if Demps/Gentry get fired this year the replacement would have more time to remodel than Demps did initially.
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also- who do you think is signing on to gm the pels with Davis's FA on the horizon and a weird ownership group?
After this season you have 3 offseasons worth of moves to convince Davis not to force a trade. It will be tight, and if Hill is a bust that makes things more difficult, but if Demps/Gentry get fired this year the replacement would have more time to remodel than Demps did initially.
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:00 pm to TigerinATL
Considering the absurdity of the summers fa season I thought dell/ferry did as well as you could have hoped for
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:04 pm to corndeaux
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ho do you think is signing on to gm the pels with Davis's FA on the horizon
3-4 years is "on the horizon"?
In that case pretty much every job is like that.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:09 pm to Fun Bunch
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3-4 years is "on the horizon"?
In that case pretty much every job is like that.
well no. not every job has an anthony davis
we know you want demps gone. if you want me to say "yes, they'll fire hime if they miss the playoffs" there you go.
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:14 pm to TigerinATL
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After this season you have 3 offseasons worth of moves to convince Davis not to force a trade. It will be tight, and if Hill is a bust that makes things more difficult, but if Demps/Gentry get fired this year the replacement would have more time to remodel than Demps did initially.
they missed their chance to remodel in a way to raise the ceiling this past season. should have gone all out for the lottery balls around the new year.
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replacement would have more time to remodel than Demps did initially.
assuming ownership allows that, which is why many think jvg didnt get the job. again, what changes their thinking?
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Considering the absurdity of the summers fa season I thought dell/ferry did as well as you could have hoped for
i agree. said so many, many times. i like the changes. people expecting playoffs this year are fooling themselves. doesn't mean they won't compete. but they need another summer to find more playmaking, shooting, and frontcourt help
Posted on 10/27/16 at 5:14 pm to corndeaux
Testy.
And no that isn't what I want you to say. You're one of the smartest posters on here. I don't think AD leaving in potentially 4 years drives a GM away.
Unstable ownership and not having the freedom to do what you want with the roster and coach are certainly problems.
And no that isn't what I want you to say. You're one of the smartest posters on here. I don't think AD leaving in potentially 4 years drives a GM away.
Unstable ownership and not having the freedom to do what you want with the roster and coach are certainly problems.
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