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Whats with the Tyreke constant hate?
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:42 pm
All I keep seeing is about how he needs to be traded. He has been the 2nd best player on this team and was a huge reason why we made the playoffs. This guy didn't play pg for 5 years and had to start as one this year and all of a sudden it's "he can't run a offense". Well no duh he's not a friggin pg. When he was allowed to be a scorer along sided Jrue he was great early on in the season. The new love for Gordon is weird also, sure he's a great 3pt shooter but this guy couldn't make a lay up last year. I think he shot near 40% within the arc last year not to mention he can't dribble to save his life. If you ask me I rather see Reke start over Gordon not only because Tyreke puts constant pressure on the opposing defense, he pushes the ball, and he also has the size to be a good defender. Where as Gordon is just too small to defend 2's and too slow defend 1's. A combination of Jrue/Reke/Quincy would be able to switch constantly.
/Rant
/Rant
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 1:44 pm
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Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:49 pm to 504ByrdGang
What's with you always posting rants?
Posted on 6/2/15 at 1:54 pm to 504ByrdGang
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Whats with the Tyreke constant hate?
htran posted his clutch stats (5 minutes or less, within 5 points) and they were AWFUL. Some of it could well be Monty, it was obvious he encouraged some of the hero balling late, but Tyreke has a very limited skill set that teams can stop if they focus on it. If he were in a 6th man role and only playing at the end of games on nights that he's on fire or has a favorable matchup, everyone would love him.
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A combination of Jrue/Reke/Quincy would be able to switch constantly.
I hope this staff can take him to the next level, but him complaining on multiple occasions about how hard it was to learn the playbook once he had to run the offense makes me wonder how much room for BBIQ improvement there is. Who knows, maybe Monty was overly complicated with things and Gentry/Erman will have simpler rules.
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he needs to be traded
I wouldn't say he needs to be traded, but I think his role and minutes may change enough that if you were going to trade him now would be as valuable as he ever gets for you.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:07 pm to 504ByrdGang
I like him but if we can get something good for him I wouldn't mind doing it. He can r kind of a derp about 30% of the time and the other 70 he can look like an all star
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:14 pm to Macintosh504
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He can r kind of a derp
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:26 pm to 504ByrdGang
Reke stops ball movement. IMO we need to run a ball movement based offense. Therefore if we play Reke, it should be on the offense-challenged second unit, and then let him pound the ball
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:37 pm to 504ByrdGang
I don't think that many people "hate" him. I think people realize that he has severe limitations. He has one great skill, he can get to the rim at will. I think he'd be a fantastic 6th man. He doesn't fit as an off-ball player because he can't shoot.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:41 pm to Epic Cajun
I love his heart, competitiveness and grit. I don't love his passing skills or desire to pass. The ball just stops when it hits his hands. Hopefully the new coaches can find a way to utilize his skills without choking out the offense as he did when Monty was running things.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:51 pm to BigPerm30
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I love his heart, competitiveness and grit. I don't love his passing skills or desire to pass. The ball just stops when it hits his hands. Hopefully the new coaches can find a way to utilize his skills without choking out the offense as he did when Monty was running things.
This is the biggest misconception for me. The ball stopped when it hit everyone's hands in Monty's offense. Cole / Rivers / Gordon all had the same problems, but their usage wasn't nearly high enough to freak people out. None of the 4 are true PGs. All are better scorers than facilitators. I expect the new offensive wrinkles to mask that dilemma to some extent. Ideally, the motion offense Gentry brings to the table is the facilitator if Jrue Holiday misses time again.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 2:52 pm to 504ByrdGang
The man has one skill (getting to the rim) that he isn't even able to take advantage of (does not draw FTs, cannot hit FTs when he is sent to the line, does not finish at rim at high enough % to justify usage).
His defense is bad, he's useless off the ball so don't try and tell me he isn't a PG because if he isn't a PG and can't play off the ball he doesn't belong on this team, he's consistently out of shape, does not give off the impression he'll pick up a fast paced system (constantly flirting with 8 second violations), and if we're talking about guards being unable to get the ball to AD... you're really talking about Tyreke playing hero ball.
His defense is bad, he's useless off the ball so don't try and tell me he isn't a PG because if he isn't a PG and can't play off the ball he doesn't belong on this team, he's consistently out of shape, does not give off the impression he'll pick up a fast paced system (constantly flirting with 8 second violations), and if we're talking about guards being unable to get the ball to AD... you're really talking about Tyreke playing hero ball.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:02 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
Reke is really important for the regular season bc he plays every night. He is ideal to play with the 2s especially with Ryno spreading the floor.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:31 pm to 504ByrdGang
16.6/6.6/5.3 and an almost 18 PER, played every night, stuffs the stat sheet, plays excellent on ball defense, won us a bunch of games and was HUGE in the final game against SA. Anyone who hates Reke doesn't want the Pels to win many games because outside of AD, nobody else does shite.
Seriously, look at the Pels roster. Everybody else is a one or two trick pony. And before you say "Jrue" look at how many games he played for us.
ETA: Very excited to see Reke in Gentry's offense.
Seriously, look at the Pels roster. Everybody else is a one or two trick pony. And before you say "Jrue" look at how many games he played for us.
ETA: Very excited to see Reke in Gentry's offense.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:35 pm to Solo
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because outside of AD, nobody else does shite.
if sarcasm: my apologies
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:37 pm to LosLobos111
It's really not sarcasm. I've edited above. Feel free to respond.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 3:50 pm to Solo
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Seriously, look at the Pels roster. Everybody else is a one or two trick pony.
Ryno is but I don't think he's long for this team
Gordon was an elite 3 point shooter this past season,a rock solid passer and can play decent defense. With a good offseason and getting into gentry system(which he likes) he could explode.
Cole/Qpon are solid 2 way players that were instrumental down the stretch.
Asik is good at what he does(defense/rebounding) and hopefully gentry will use him right.
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And before you say "Jrue" look at how many games he played for us.
So you damn him due to bad luck?
Please do not claim it was all AD down the stretch of the season(he struggled himself at times).
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 4:15 pm to LosLobos111
EG is a great 3 point shooter and solid passer. His abilities on D are over. Cost? 16 mil.
Ryno used to be a great 3 point shooter. Now he brings nothing to the table.
Cole/Q are solid 7/8 or 8/9 guys off the bench. Neither of these guys are going to go out an win a bunch of games for us.
Asik. I am disappoint.
Jrue has played in less 45% of available games over a two year period.
If Evans and AD are not on this roster, it is a shite show, homie.
Ryno used to be a great 3 point shooter. Now he brings nothing to the table.
Cole/Q are solid 7/8 or 8/9 guys off the bench. Neither of these guys are going to go out an win a bunch of games for us.
Asik. I am disappoint.
Jrue has played in less 45% of available games over a two year period.
If Evans and AD are not on this roster, it is a shite show, homie.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 4:57 pm to Solo
How does a guy who avgs 17/6/5 have one skill????? He can score, pass, rebound, and defend 3 positions. I agree he makes some bad plays but look at the offense we ran.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 5:08 pm to 504ByrdGang
He doesn't have one skill and anyone who thinks that either doesn't watch pels games or doesn't understand basketball.
I'm hoping that Gentry and his staff can help with some of his decision making. If they can get through to him, it's on like Donkey Kong.
We also need the damn refs to stop swallowing their whistle.
I'm hoping that Gentry and his staff can help with some of his decision making. If they can get through to him, it's on like Donkey Kong.
We also need the damn refs to stop swallowing their whistle.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 6/2/15 at 5:17 pm to Solo
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Neither of these guys are going to go out an win a bunch of games for us.
Well they definitely had a hand in winning games. We don't make the playoffs without them.
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If Evans and AD are not on this roster, it is a shite show, homie.
Well no shite if your superstar is out you're fricked. The team actually more than held its own sans AD last season.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 5:18 pm to 504ByrdGang
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How does a guy who avgs 17/6/5 have one skill????? He can score, pass, rebound, and defend 3 positions. I agree he makes some bad plays but look at the offense we ran.
Really
And "out of shape" playing 79 games at 34 mph. Led the team in minutes
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