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What would it take to get Jae Crowder?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:45 pm
Dudes on a bargain of a contract at 3/21 ish remaining and can easily give us 14/4/3 on 38% from 3. Can defend the 2/3/4 spots and is a solid 6'6". Would 2018 first plus someone like Diallo or Ajinca work? Bradley would be nice too, but Crowder is a better fit and will be way cheaper going forward.
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Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:46 pm to TPecoraro23
A GM with a brain
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:46 pm to TPecoraro23
Not being located in nola
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:46 pm to TPecoraro23
Not having Alvin Gentry as a coach
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:46 pm to TPecoraro23
Outside of multiple picks (which Ainge loves) and Moore's semi cheap deal wet have Jack diddly to offer.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:50 pm to TPecoraro23
I think Diallo is due to break out, but Crowder would immediately start if on the team.
The proposed trade in the other thread Diallo for Crowder and 1st round pick swap would be a perfect trade for the Pelicans. I don't know how that works with the cap though.
The proposed trade in the other thread Diallo for Crowder and 1st round pick swap would be a perfect trade for the Pelicans. I don't know how that works with the cap though.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:50 pm to TPecoraro23
@JakeLFischer
The Celtics offered Jae Crowder to late lottery teams leading up to June's draft, per league sources. Boston asked for pick, young player.
The Celtics offered Jae Crowder to late lottery teams leading up to June's draft, per league sources. Boston asked for pick, young player.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:50 pm to whatiknowsofar
true but Boston is looking for a salary dump, so I guess we will see, hopefully Dell wakes up and does something
Posted on 7/5/17 at 6:56 pm to Colonel Flagg
I agree, I am very high on Diallo, but if we can land a legit 3 and D wing on a good contract for him and a draft pick, you have to do it. If you get Cousins to commit long term Diallo won't be a big loss.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:00 pm to TPecoraro23
I'm not sure the Pelicans would give up a ton for Crowder. He is defenitly better than Hill, but maybe like 20% better. A worse 3pt shooter and comparable defender. Crowder has much better vision and handles though.
Could be fun to have Hill and Crowder just wearing out the other teams best guy. Just don't know if I'd give up a ton.
Could be fun to have Hill and Crowder just wearing out the other teams best guy. Just don't know if I'd give up a ton.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:06 pm to TheJruth
quote:Crowder is a better 3 point shooter than Hill.
I'm not sure the Pelicans would give up a ton for Crowder. He is defenitly better than Hill, but maybe like 20% better. A worse 3pt shooter and comparable defender. Crowder has much better vision and handles though.
Could be fun to have Hill and Crowder just wearing out the other teams best guy. Just don't know if I'd give up a ton.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:07 pm to NOSHAU
Don't know if anyone has discussed this but I remember when we first signed Solo there was a lot of talk about how he was a better 4 than 3. I feel like getting Crowder would give us a lot of opportunity for a combination like Crowder/Solo/Cousins, Crowder/Solo/AD, Crowder/AD/Cousins, or Solo/AD/Cousins. I think a capable SF would be a really great fit for us to be more versatile.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:09 pm to TPecoraro23
They are way too high on Crowder to give him up for the 18' First Rounder and Diallo or Ajinca. Diallo may become a quality player, but he is yet to prove anything. As far as Ajinca goes, I doubt they are interested in him for peanuts, much less the contract he's currently under
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:11 pm to TheJruth
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A worse 3pt shooter
Crowder shot 39.8% from 3 last year. It could be an outlier as most of his other years have been around 33%, but I wouldn't say he's worse than Solo. Bradley would be the ideal fit here, but his contract is what worries me. The contract situation is what makes me lean more towards Crowder if I had to choose.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:11 pm to BigTimer23
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They are way too high on Crowder to give him up for the 18' First Rounder and Diallo or Ajinca. Diallo may become a quality player, but he is yet to prove anything. As far as Ajinca goes, I doubt they are interested in him for peanuts, much less the contract he's currently under
Yeah the cynic in me says in a best case scenario, Diallo has a breakout sophomore season, Tatum or Brown have a great season, And you then try and make a deal like that for Crowder.
The guy plays PF for them regularly, he has one of the best contracts in the league, and they have other assets they can try and move before going to that well.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:18 pm to TheJruth
Crowder (7 million dollars) averaged roughly 14/5 on 46%/40%/81% in 32 MPG.
Solo Hill (12 million dollars) averaged roughly 7/4 on 38%/35%/80% in 30 MPG.
i'd say Crowder, especially at his price is a much better player.
Solo Hill (12 million dollars) averaged roughly 7/4 on 38%/35%/80% in 30 MPG.
i'd say Crowder, especially at his price is a much better player.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:20 pm to DeionDeion
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DeionDeion
????
Hill is already undersized at the 3. The frick are you talking about?
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:30 pm to mr brightside
when Solo was signed Dell mentioned he could play the 4 and with the league playing small ball, it could be a solid replacement for when AD or Cousins sit
he actually did some of his best work in Indy at the 4
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Thats what I'm talking about
he actually did some of his best work in Indy at the 4
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Hill was capable of providing Indiana the necessary factors in helping them close out wins. But he also provided Indiana a viable option as a small ball four. In his time playing power forward, the Pacers were +41 in net points.
This helped Hill and the Pacers make him a positive player, with him flipping the -9.6 on/off split in 2015 to a workable +1.0. His activity on defense led to 1.5 steals per 36 minutes, up a half a steal from his previous season. Hill also became a surprisingly deadly marksman late in the season, shooting 19-46 from deep after the All-Star Break after hitting just five in the first half of the season.
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But Hill experienced a resurgence late in the year that carried into the playoffs. Then-coach Frank Vogel moved him to power forward, where he started to show his skills. He averaged 10 points and five rebounds per game in the Pacers' seven-game playoff loss to Toronto and nearly won Game 5 with a difficult buzzer beater.
Thats what I'm talking about
This post was edited on 7/5/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:31 pm to BigTimer23
They are definitely high on Crowder. However, like we have seen in the past few weeks with the Paul George trade and Holidau's deal, it's not about value, it's also about leverage. Every GM knows that they're shopping those three players and they want to make the deal as soon as possible, they don't have the leverage. Although, I'd rather Bradley. He would fit along side Jrue well because he can go off the ball and can play point, good shooter. I doubt the celtics give him up though.
Posted on 7/5/17 at 7:33 pm to Pelicans8
quote:But you would likely only have him for one year as he would be a FA looking for a big deal after next season.
Although, I'd rather Bradley. He would fit along side Jrue well because he can go off the ball and can play point, good shooter. I doubt the celtics give him up though.
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