re: We need another impact player

not saying they couldnt use an upgrade on the wing, but Hill/Cunningham aren't the zeroes this board has convinced themselves they both are.

the team has gone from bottom 5 to a top 10 defense on the season. so they should jettison two guys known as good defenders?

Buddy Hield should get better over the next year or two- if his average goes from 9 to 15, there's your 6. if you can get that + roughly the same defense....also, i'd like to see Hill work more on ball. some scary moments from him at times, but he's probably the best creator that isn't Evans/Holiday/Frazier (very low bar).



again, they've been over .500 since Jrue Holiday came back. they have a +3 Net Rating (with the best defense in the league) since going to Davis at the 5. freaking out over every loss and every thing that is not great with the team right now is the wrong way to think about it- it's how everyone thinks Demps/Gentry are looking at it.

last night Anthony Davis missed most of the 2nd half on the road. the Pels fought back from double digit deficit w/o him and had chances to win the game- largely because the Pacers suddenly couldnt hit FTs. sucks they lost, but it isn't the apocalypse. there is no catastrophe on the court right now

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not saying they couldnt use an upgrade on the wing, but Hill/Cunningham aren't the zeroes this board has convinced themselves they both are.

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They aren't but I feel like the team is stuck in a position where it is going to have to rely largely on internal growth to improve.

On the latest BSS podcast Schwann and McNamara were discussing how much money they'd pay to keep Holiday. Schwan pretty much said anything over $15 was too much money for too little player. McNamara was willing to pay $20 per year for 3 years. His reasoning was he thought Holiday at $20 per year on a medium length contract was a more valuable trade asset than going out and signing another Hill and Moore.

I don't think the team has ever seriously contemplated life without Jrue, so that whole discussion is pointless. But that got me thinking about resigning Tyreke as a potential trade asset. If someone wants him to be their starter you probably can't compete both in role or money, but if the only teams that want him are playoff teams looking for a 6th man, you might have a shot at keeping him for around $10 and just needing to beat the MLE.

I know I've said in the past not to expect much value out of Tyreke, but if he's getting paid roughly the same under a $103 cap as he got under a $60 million cap, you might be able to get some value for him down the line, not to mention he's your 2nd or 3rd best player considering the teams inability to add talent to the roster.

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AD, Holiday, and Heild is a nice core.

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For staying between 8-10 in the west.

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if it's a solid, strong, entertaining team, what's wrong w/ internal improvement? what was Memphis saying in 2009?

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I have no problem with aiming for a Memphis style run, but Holiday and Hield will need to kick it up a notch to get them there.

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sign the guys you want to play here at money you want to give them. if a deal comes along,

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But the problem is they don't necessarily get to bank that money for later if they don't spend it. If the only thing that happens with the roster is Tyreke walks you only have $7.5 million in cap space. You might be better off with the $8.4 million MLE.

Is choosing one of DMo/Jones with cap space and signing someone like Lance with the Room exception better than DMo/Jones with the MLE and resigning Tyreke with Bird Rights? Maybe, I guess it depends on how mismatched Tyreke and Gentry actually are. I think there's a lot of echo chamber effect in just how bad things between Tyreke and the team are. The main source of this was the very open but civil disagreement with the coach over the system and "inside info" suggesting the team is done with him.

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Is choosing one of DMo/Jones with cap space and signing someone like Lance with the Room exception better than DMo/Jones with the MLE and resigning Tyreke with Bird Rights? Maybe, I guess it depends on how mismatched Tyreke and Gentry actually are. I think there's a lot of echo chamber effect in just how bad things between Tyreke and the team are. The main source of this was the very open but civil disagreement with the coach over the system and "inside info" suggesting the team is done with him.

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I haven't been following closely (beyond watching the games and occasionally making my way to the SKC), but I don't understand why Tyreke is considered persona non grata among some Pels fans and apparently the coach.

IMO, he should have been the guy handling the ball on that final possession. He's the only consistent threat to get to the rim, he can pull up, can shoot from outside (albeit no better than average), and can distribute.

When Jrue was injured last year (or was it 14-15?) and Tyreke played point he did a pretty damn good job.

He still shows flashes as a passer when he drives.

It seemed to me that the Pels best chance of winning that last game was to have Reke instead of Holiday and Hill (or Moore - whichever one it was) handling the ball those final two possessions.

If I'm missing something as to why he shouldn't have been tasked with making that play, please fill me in.