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We may be in trouble
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:18 pm
I know a lot of people are excited about the next season, and expect the Pelicans to be competitive, (may be not play off favorites, but 8 spot candidates at least). Nevertheless, no matter how much I think about it, I can see us improving, but not that much. I will explain why:
There are 3 main positions that need upgrading: small forward, Point guard and Center (in that order in my opinion, but not by much). Being realistic, we could have a relatively successful season if we substantially upgrade any two of these 3. In other words, we could do well with Aminu in the smallr forward, if we get a great center and a solid PG, we can do well with Vasquez as PG if we get a great Center and a solid small forward, and we could do well with Lopez as center if we get a great PG and a solid power forward.
Unfortunately, given our 6th pick, what we have to offer and what is available via trade, I cannot see us upgrading two of those three positions, without compromising else ware.
I elaborate:
The best we could do with our 6 is to get Burke or Oladipo (if we are really lucky). Now if we get Burke, that would mean an upgrade in PG, and he will most likely be the starter, So we than would only have either Lopez and Vasquez to offer for a good center, or Aminu and Vasquez to offer for a good small forward. I do not see anyone trading a good center or Power forward for either of those two packages.
If we take Oladipo in the draft, then we could offer Vasquez and Aminu for a good PG or Lopez and Aminu for a good center, again it seems hard to believe that a team would give us an elite player for either of these two packages (although Lopez and Aminu may just be enough).
Finally if we try to trade our sixth pick, we basically would either offer Aminu, Vasquez and the 6th to get a PG and a power 3, Lopez Vasquez and the sixth to get a center and a PG, or Aminu Lopez and the 6th to get a center and a small forward, none of this packages look good enough to me for us to get our 2 upgrades.
So in my opinion the most likely scenario is that we upgrade one of the 3 positions, and get an extra player for one of the other two but no a clear update. In which case, as I said, we may do better than last year, but most likely not make it to the playoffs.
There are 3 main positions that need upgrading: small forward, Point guard and Center (in that order in my opinion, but not by much). Being realistic, we could have a relatively successful season if we substantially upgrade any two of these 3. In other words, we could do well with Aminu in the smallr forward, if we get a great center and a solid PG, we can do well with Vasquez as PG if we get a great Center and a solid small forward, and we could do well with Lopez as center if we get a great PG and a solid power forward.
Unfortunately, given our 6th pick, what we have to offer and what is available via trade, I cannot see us upgrading two of those three positions, without compromising else ware.
I elaborate:
The best we could do with our 6 is to get Burke or Oladipo (if we are really lucky). Now if we get Burke, that would mean an upgrade in PG, and he will most likely be the starter, So we than would only have either Lopez and Vasquez to offer for a good center, or Aminu and Vasquez to offer for a good small forward. I do not see anyone trading a good center or Power forward for either of those two packages.
If we take Oladipo in the draft, then we could offer Vasquez and Aminu for a good PG or Lopez and Aminu for a good center, again it seems hard to believe that a team would give us an elite player for either of these two packages (although Lopez and Aminu may just be enough).
Finally if we try to trade our sixth pick, we basically would either offer Aminu, Vasquez and the 6th to get a PG and a power 3, Lopez Vasquez and the sixth to get a center and a PG, or Aminu Lopez and the 6th to get a center and a small forward, none of this packages look good enough to me for us to get our 2 upgrades.
So in my opinion the most likely scenario is that we upgrade one of the 3 positions, and get an extra player for one of the other two but no a clear update. In which case, as I said, we may do better than last year, but most likely not make it to the playoffs.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:32 pm
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:20 pm to morsatun
quote:
I know a lot of people is excited
Didn't read after that.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:20 pm to morsatun
quote:
I know a lot of people is excited
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:20 pm to morsatun
quote:
There are 3 main positions that need upgrading: Power forward, Point guard and Center (in that order in my opinion, but not by much).
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:21 pm to saintsfan92612
Stopped reading there
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:21 pm to morsatun
quote:
people is excited
quote:
3 main positions that need upgrading: Power forward, Point guard and Center (in that order
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:23 pm to morsatun
LOL
Just quit posting
Just quit posting
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:25 pm to morsatun
quote:
we could do well with Aminu in the power forward
deefuq
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:25 pm to morsatun
quote:this has got to be a troll
There are 3 main positions that need upgrading: Power forward, Point guard and Center (in that order in my opinion, but not by much).
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:26 pm to ssgtiger
Besides the two absolutely awful portions of the post, the OP completely ignores that, first of all, Aminu is a FA and isn't a great trade asset (possible in a S&T for a team above the cap, like Chicago/Deng) and that if we don't re-sign Aminu, we have ~$15m in cap space to fix other needs.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:26 pm to morsatun
That is a lot of words
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:27 pm to THRILLHO
Please, think.
You work hard. Make it count.
You work hard. Make it count.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:28 pm to morsatun
this is one helluva troll write-up 
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:29 pm to THRILLHO
To put at least an ounce of debate in this thread, would anyone trade AD/Ryno for any other teams PF's? I don't think that there's any other duo that's CLOSE unless you consider LBJ a 4. And our most likely league best PF duo is only making ~$13m/yr over the next 3 years.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:29 pm to morsatun
quote:
I know a lot of people is excited
I is very excited
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:30 pm to BayouFann
quote:
this is one helluva troll write-up
That's the thing, most trolls don't put that much effort into their posts.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:32 pm to BayouFann
quote:
this is one helluva troll write-up
Seriously, this guy has to be pretty dedicated to trolling to write so much about something so incredibly dumb and misinformed.This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:32 pm to THRILLHO
quote:I don't think i'd give up AD for anyone not named james or Durant
To put at least an ounce of debate in this thread, would anyone trade AD/Ryno for any other teams PF's? I don't think that there's any other duo that's CLOSE unless you consider LBJ a 4. And our most likely league best PF duo is only making ~$13m/yr over the next 3 years.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:32 pm to dgtiger3
quote:
According to Hollingers PER ratings we had two of the top 12 most productive PFs in the league chief
4. Anthony Davis
12. Ryan Anderson
I was talking about small forward, I corrected it in the original post.
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