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JohnnyKilroy
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans

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It's based ONLY upon the actual rosters and individual performance/value on those rosters.



So he should have voted for Lebron?


VOR
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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So he should have voted for Lebron?


Yeah. Sure.

Christalmighty, I'm beginning to hate all the boards on this site. I don't even ask for agreement. Just reason and acceptance of other points of view.

I know. Wrong place to expect it.

I'm going to get drunk now. Then, maybe . . . I'll slap my wife around a little bit. Kick the dog. All because I've gotten so upset. And, personally, I would have voted for LeBron.


42
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
First, the Award means whatever the writers who vote want it to mean. There are no criterion. Arguing over something (stupid) with no answer is fruitless.

Second, if if if if if if . . . if my grandmother had balls, she'd be my grandfather.

Third, the point of the award is to get people to talk. Good award.

Fourth, nonsense. It's nonsense. So is MIP, and I got roasted for saying that.

ETA: I suppose the Hall of Fame is only for the most famous of athletes. After all, words mean so much. I drive so much on my driveway. Pass interference has so much to so with messing with the passer and has nothing to do with the receiver, otherwise it'd be called receiving interference, right?
This post was edited on 5/6 at 8:22 pm


VOR
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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First, the Award means whatever the writers who vote want it to mean. There are no criterion. Arguing over something (stupid) with no answer is fruitless.


I agree with this post.


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Jester
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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Christalmighty, I'm beginning to hate all the boards on this site. I don't even ask for agreement. Just reason and acceptance of other points of view.

I know. Wrong place to expect it.

I'm going to get drunk now. Then, maybe . . . I'll slap my wife around a little bit. Kick the dog. All because I've gotten so upset. And, personally, I would have voted for LeBron.


Image: http://www.1zoom.net/big2/452/326526-Sepik.jpg?m=1


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JohnnyKilroy
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Oct 2012
9672 posts

re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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Yeah. Sure.

Christalmighty, I'm beginning to hate all the boards on this site. I don't even ask for agreement. Just reason and acceptance of other points of view.

I know. Wrong place to expect it.

I'm going to get drunk now. Then, maybe . . . I'll slap my wife around a little bit. Kick the dog. All because I've gotten so upset. And, personally, I would have voted for LeBron.


Live with it, brah


VOR
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
What 42 says.

First, the Award means whatever the writers who vote want it to mean. There are no criterion. Arguing over something (stupid) with no answer is fruitless.


Unless you can find a precise, agreed upon set of criteria upon which voters are to base their vote, your argument is meaningless. Not saying you're wrong, but you're no more "right" than someone who uses a different set of criteria.


Gtothemoney
UNO Fan
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Member since Sep 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
That's it. Get rid of the fricking award and its 55 year history.


42
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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That's it. Get rid of the fricking award and its 55 year history.


They got rid of the maps with the edge of the world and monsters, yet the flat earth society remains.

LINK /

Sometimes bad ideas just stick around because some thing their important while the chorus of laughter just builds and builds.


Gtothemoney
UNO Fan
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Member since Sep 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
Respectfully, you're wrong. There are monsters, and one lives in my closet. Just ask my little girl.


Jester
LSU Fan
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Member since Feb 2006
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
MVP = Hep C


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42
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts

re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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Respectfully, you're wrong. There are monsters, and one lives in my closet. Just ask my little girl.



Dude, my bad.

I meant sea monsters.


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JohnnyKilroy
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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Unless you can find a precise, agreed upon set of criteria upon which voters are to base their vote, your argument is meaningless. Not saying you're wrong, but you're no more "right" than someone who uses a different set of criteria.


My argument is even if you use that writer's criteria, he still should have voted for lebron. Lebron objectively meant more to the heats success than melo meant to the Knicks success.


42
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
What are the objective criteria for "meaning?"


JohnnyKilroy
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
Win shares.

Lebron had double what melo had.



Jester
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
More meaning
This post was edited on 5/6 at 9:06 pm


42
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
3703 posts

re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
So the MVP is an output of the win share calculator? We strip it from Rose? Kobe (Chris led WS in 07-08)? Both Nash's?

Why not WARP?


JohnnyKilroy
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Oct 2012
9672 posts

re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
And let's take lebron out for the sake of conversation. Why on earth does melo get the vote over Durant, CP3, and Harden?

That's my biggest beef. Based on the writers own criteria the melo vote makes no sense.


JohnnyKilroy
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
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So the MVP is an output of the win share calculator? We strip it from Rose? Kobe (Chris led WS in 07-08)? Both Nash's? Why not WARP?


I'm not agreeing with this criteria. I'm just illustrating why the vote was stupid using this criteria.

And the Rose MVP was stupid and should have gone to bron.



42
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2012
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re: Very good article about selling CP3 to comeback to New Orleans
It sounds like you need to write a litter to the Boston Globe.


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