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The top starting 5s in the league - Where do our Pelicans rank?

Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:43 pm
All right, Sons, let’s look forward a little bit. When healthy, the Pels boast an impressive starting 5

CJ McCollum
Herb Jones
Brandon Ingram
Zion Williamson
Jonas Valanciunas

So here’s the question, where do we rank? There are some really impressive starting 5s in the league.

A few most people would note would be the Warriors:

Curry
Thompson
Poole
Green
Looney

The Nets:

Kyrie
KD
Seth Curry
Drummond
Simmons

The 76ers:

Embiid
Harden
Maxey
Thybulle
Harris

The Suns:

Booker
Paul
Ayton
Bridges
Crowder

The Bucks:

Giannis
Middleton
Allen
Lopez
Holiday

The Heat:

Butler
Adebayo
Robinson
Tucker
Lowry

And the Grizzlies:

Morant
Jackson Jr
Adams
Bane
Brooks

So, where do our Pelicans rank? I almost feel like I’m taking crazy pills saying this as a Pelicans fan, but I think we’re in the top 5, and that’s wild


This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18174 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:55 pm to
It is wild but maybe lower the expectations of including a player that has not been on the court in over a year, has ongoing weight problems with chronic injuries.
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:58 pm to
I mean that’s why I gave the caviat of complete health in all cases. This assumes every starting 5 in the league is completely healthy. And it’s not “expectations”, after all basketball isn’t just starting 5s. I’m just comparing the overall levels of the respective starting 5s
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 4:16 pm
Posted by ERIMSEW
Member since Feb 2013
134 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:20 pm to
Clippers

Reggie Jackson
Marcus Morris
Kahwi Leonard
Paul George
Zubac
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:25 pm to
It’s a good one for sure but I don’t think it belongs in this conversation
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5333 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:56 pm to
Of these, when totally healthy, this is how I'd rank them.

Nets
Bucks
Sixers
Warriors
Suns
Pelicans

Heat
CJ > Lowry
Herb < Butler
BI > Robinson
Zion > Tucker
Jonas < Bam

Griz
CJ < Morant
Herb < Brooks
BI > Bane
Zion > JJJ
Jonas > Adams

ETA: I'd add Celtics healthy starting 5 and clippers starting 5, when healthy, in the same range as the Pels

Celtics
Smart
Brown
Tatum
Horford
Williams
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 5:00 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:11 pm to
It's hard to really rank tbh.

What this thread/question does show to me though is there really is more parity in the league than at any time I can remember.

When healthy, I can make a decent case for 10ish teams that I could see winning a title, in no particular order:

Nets
Clippers
Celtics
Suns
Heat
Sixers
Bucks
Warriors
Pelicans
Nuggets
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29403 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:13 pm to
I’d say the starting 5 , when healthy , has to be in the top half of the league , wouldn’t y’all say?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70855 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

CJ McCollum
Herb Jones
Brandon Ingram
Zion Williamson
Jonas Valanciunas


Lets actually get that lineup on the floor before we start ranking it.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29403 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:15 pm to
Booker update is saying out for games3-4 . They make it seem like it’s new info
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29403 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:17 pm to
I’ve always thought that when you actually look at every teams starting 5 on paper, you realize how many great players are in the league.

Every team has 3 or 4 starters that you can say are good players
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:22 pm to
Yep, I do the same any time I try and qualify whether X player is top 25/15/10 etc.

You start to realize there's a lot of really great players and almost always have adjust your initial hunch down some spots.

Was just doing it last night wondering, is BI top 15 at this point, top 20?

Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72000 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:24 pm to
Don’t even need to include Zion.

The 5 man of Jonas Herb BI CJ and Hayes had the 2nd highest offensive rating in the league the last two months of the year, only behind Dallas’s 5 man of Luka, Brunson, DFS, Powell and Bullock
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29403 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:29 pm to
Without Zion they are probably around 15-20 in the nba , more offensively though. Probably worse on d
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 5:30 pm
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Lets actually get that lineup on the floor before we start ranking it.

Absolutely agreed. This is all hypothetical. My main point wasn’t to claim we will be a top 5 team or anything like that, but to kind of shed light on how we have gone from discussing tanking to even being in this kind of conversation
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11500 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:07 pm to
When this team is Healthy post CJ they are what 11-3 now. That is elite. What we need are a couple of starting caliber players that don't mind coming off the bench to contend for rings, that is the next step in the process.
Posted by ERIMSEW
Member since Feb 2013
134 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:13 pm to
So the clippers roster with 2 top 10 players in the NBA wouldn’t be in conversation for best starting 5?
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
19425 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

So the clippers roster with 2 top 10 players in the NBA wouldn’t be in conversation for best starting 5?


1. I don’t personally rate Reggie Jackson, Marcus Morris, or Zubac that highly

2. I don’t have Paul George in my top 10. He’s definitely an amazing player but I definitely don’t rate him top 10.

To me that starting 5 is very flawed and very inconsistent. I’d probably have it in the 10-15 range for starting 5s, which is what I meant by not in the conversation
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
4720 posts
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:53 am to
This Poole kid for the Warriors....man. The LAST thing they needed was another Splash Brother. Sheesh the kid can score. And they got him at the end of the 1st round!
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