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re: Report: Gentry may have days remaining
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:28 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:28 pm to TigerinATL
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You'd need to believe he'd have a decent chance at bringing in someone like Cousins
I would happily give up a little bit of coaching ability to get Cousins for $0.80 on the dollar. The problem is that our team is SO bad right now, NO ONE worth a shite actually wants to come here. Trading out Gentry for Cal would have helped us last offseason, but I don't think it does anything for us now or next offseason.
I don't even see how we could make a Boogie trade work without giving up Jrue. I'm down for that, but it would almost certainly include an unprotected pick (in a strong PG draft) in 2017. That leaves us without our second most valuable asset and no money to improve our team. Even if we could do Jrue + Buddy for Boogie and keep our pick, that leaves us kind of buggered at PG. Unless we're willing to extend Reke.
A Reke/Moore/QPon/AD/Boogie lineup would win a decent number of games, and be fun to watch, but pretty much guarantee that you never get out of the second round unless you can knock some 2nd round picks out of the park.
Plus I don't think Reke and Boogie want to play together.
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:01 pm to THRILLHO
Why TF would Cal want to leave what he's got now? And for this? C'mon.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:11 pm to THRILLHO
And cousins has been on 1 team that's won 30+ games in 6 seasons. All I hear is how great of a player he is but he doesn't make his team better
Even Shaq, who is a minority owner in SAC, called cousins out on national TV for being a selfish dumbass
He's the last guy we need to mortgage the future for
Even Shaq, who is a minority owner in SAC, called cousins out on national TV for being a selfish dumbass
He's the last guy we need to mortgage the future for
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:28 pm to GynoSandberg
Yeah, but that's why he should kind of be a target. If the Sac FO wants to dump him, and he would help keep AD happy, it makes some sense for both teams.
The big issue is that Boogie on our team most likely means that we start winning games, so our pick becomes less valuable.
Jrue + Buddy for Boogie probably isn't even enough, and it drops our 1st rounder to the 7-10 range.
Buddy + our first isn't going to be enough as Jrue + AD + Boogie is going to win at least 50% of our games, so the pick is meh. Plus the only way we could make that work $ wise (without Jrue) would be including either Asik, Solo, or Ajinca and a few other guys.
The big issue is that Boogie on our team most likely means that we start winning games, so our pick becomes less valuable.
Jrue + Buddy for Boogie probably isn't even enough, and it drops our 1st rounder to the 7-10 range.
Buddy + our first isn't going to be enough as Jrue + AD + Boogie is going to win at least 50% of our games, so the pick is meh. Plus the only way we could make that work $ wise (without Jrue) would be including either Asik, Solo, or Ajinca and a few other guys.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:37 pm to THRILLHO
Yea they are going to want a monumental haul for boogie, we don't have close to the pieces that others could offer
I'd say deal Evans and holiday if you must before the deadline, then move on and attempt to find something with the guys we have left. The result will more than likely be a high draft pick. Best case these guys get better I guess
I'd say deal Evans and holiday if you must before the deadline, then move on and attempt to find something with the guys we have left. The result will more than likely be a high draft pick. Best case these guys get better I guess
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:45 pm to rt3
Double fire him and Dell and put Ferry in as new GM. Makes the most sense.
Horrible GM makes completely horrible HC hire that as obvious to anyone with a brain except Loomis and Benson. Shocker.
Horrible GM makes completely horrible HC hire that as obvious to anyone with a brain except Loomis and Benson. Shocker.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:46 pm to GynoSandberg
Yeah, I hate trading Holiday as I'm a bigger fan of his than most, but if we don't go over .550 with Jrue by the time we hit the trade deadline, then it makes sense to deal him. It would ultimately improve our pick via sucking and probably net us a late 1st. People will say that Jrue isn't worth much, but if I'm a contender with an expiring, I'd absolutely give up my 1st for a 2 month Jrue rental + his Bird rights.
We could easily put ourselves in the position to have a top 5 pick + a 20-30 pick. The cost will be a most likely infuriated AD. Or we could make moves to fight for the playoffs for a content AD with no future.
ETA: I can't find many contenders with expirings. Portland does have Varajeo. A Lillard, CJ, and Jrue backcourt would be fricking insane, but not sure if they go for it.
We could easily put ourselves in the position to have a top 5 pick + a 20-30 pick. The cost will be a most likely infuriated AD. Or we could make moves to fight for the playoffs for a content AD with no future.
ETA: I can't find many contenders with expirings. Portland does have Varajeo. A Lillard, CJ, and Jrue backcourt would be fricking insane, but not sure if they go for it.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:07 pm to THRILLHO
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We could easily put ourselves in the position to have a top 5 pick + a 20-30 pick. The cost will be a most likely infuriated AD. Or we could make moves to fight for the playoffs for a content AD with no future.
I'm not sure how you sell hitting the reset switch to anyone. AD won't like it, Loomis/Benson won't like it, and any new GM probably wouldn't like it, especially if you trade away Holiday but are still stuck with contracts like Asik and Hill. I'd love to find a way to tank and get a top 3 pick without injuries to AD/Holiday and keeping everyone happy, I just don't know how you do that. Steal a play from the Walrus' play book and go with Interim GM and HC Danny Ferry?
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 11:58 pm to TigerinATL
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I'm not sure how you sell hitting the reset switch to anyone.
If we trade Jrue fairly early? I think any up-and-comer will take their chances with AD + Hield + a top 5 pick if they have confidence in themselves. The odds of hitting on the right guy are slim, but if you're a middle-management guy at a good company and a failing company with some promise offers you a chance to be CEO, you consider it.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:29 am to TigerinATL
AD would be an easy sell.
"You see this right now, you like it?"
"You see this right now, you like it?"
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:31 am to Sauce Castieaux
That would've worked better in 2015. We're the Kings and no one is dying to coach the Kings
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:43 am to NOLA Bronco
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Shuffling more chairs when the biggest problem is the guy shuffling them....
Don't worry. If/when Gentry is let go Demps will be packing with him. That's for sure.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:48 am to THRILLHO
Hypothetical scenario. Pels get calipari, trade for boogie while being able to somehow keep buddy. Chances they could land CP3 in free agency then?
0?
0?
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:53 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:51 am to rt3
We will be going through this exact same thing with the new coach in a years time.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:58 am to THRILLHO
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If we trade Jrue fairly early? I think any up-and-comer will take their chances with AD + Hield + a top 5 pick if they have confidence in themselves
Just because you get a new GM doesn't mean they are viewing things 3 years out. I don't think a core of Rookie PG/Buddy/AD is a playoff team next year looking at the current results. I think many GMs, especially the ones that will promise playoffs to get the job, would prefer Holiday. Ideally you find a way to have both a top pick and Holiday.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:59 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:14 am to LesGeaux45
Demps first
Gentry later
Gentry later
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:30 am to TigerinATL
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Steal a play from the Walrus' play book and go with Interim GM and HC Danny Ferry?
Screw that. Make Derps coach this piece of shite.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:10 am to THRILLHO
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People will say that Jrue isn't worth much, but if I'm a contender with an expiring, I'd absolutely give up my 1st for a 2 month Jrue rental + his Bird rights.
Atlanta and Charlotte are the two teams that immediately come to mind that could benefit greatly by having Jrue for the playoffs. Toronto, OKC and Utah could as well.
Atlanta has Splitter doing nothing and expiring. THey also have 2 rookie SF's that were late 1st round picks.
Charlotte really doesn't have much they would give away, that we would want.
Toronto would be Terrance Ross, but I doubt they give him away and a first for 1 year of Jrue.
OKC would be a difficult one. They might be interested in Asik to get rid of Kanter, but I highly doubt it. It would save them 3-4 million a year for the next 2. Kanter/Morrow/1st for Jrue/Asik. Not sure we would do it, but it would get rid of Asik for 2 more years of Kanter.
Utah has been interested in Jrue for a while. I wouldn't doubt they'd give up on Exum for Jrue, but not sure what other fillers they'd have to give up. I'm sure they'd do a George Hill and crap for jrue too.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:25 am to TeddyPadillac
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Utah has been interested in Jrue for a while. I wouldn't doubt they'd give up on Exum for Jrue, but not sure what other fillers they'd have to give up. I'm sure they'd do a George Hill and crap for jrue too.
Everything I've heard is Hill is fitting in quite well, I don't think Utah would be in the market for Holiday anymore.
I also can't see Toronto trading for him, do they really think they could sell Holiday on resigning to be the 6th man when other teams will pay him the same money to start?
OKC and Charlotte don't have much we'd want, that just leaves Atlanta. They traded Teague because Schroeder couldn't coexist with him, but Holiday can play off ball so that might work. Prince or Bembry on rookie deals would both be nice hedges against Hill sucking. One rookie doesn't seem like enough, but asking for a 1st on top of that seems like too much. How to balance it out? Humphries for Ajinca and the Brooklyn 2nd?
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 9:28 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:41 am to TigerinATL
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Everything I've heard is Hill is fitting in quite well, I don't think Utah would be in the market for Holiday anymore.
Hill is an expiring, and Jrue is obviously better than Hill. I know they haven't been happy with Exum, but don't know anyting about this year. I would think that Utah would think they would have a better chance at keeping Hayward if Jrue comes on board and does well and signs with them, much more so than with Exum or Hill. And they'd have a better chance at signing Jrue this offseason if he was given a test run this year with them and saw some potential.
And I was just listing possibilities. I think Atlanta and Utah are the only ones that might listen to us.
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Prince or Bembry on rookie deals would both be nice hedges against Hill sucking. One rookie doesn't seem like enough, but asking for a 1st on top of that seems like too much
That's the kicker with them. I doubt they'd give up 2 first round picks, Bembry or Prince and next years pick for 1/2 year of Jrue. I would like it though.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 9:44 am
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