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re: Pels trying to trade for asik

Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:16 pm to
Panic time

Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:38 pm to
You think Jabari is overrated? Good God.

MCW can't shoot so we don't want him? Huh? He's 19ish years old. Oh and I thought I saw a stat where our 11 million dollar SIXTH man shoots 14% from beyond the arch...that sir, is absolutely terrible.

And not getting Drummond with the 10th pick is not a crime, it's reality. It wasn't your pick. He was picked before you. Oh well.
But now if you had some cash, you could maybe lure a native of Nola who plays center for the same team Drummond does.

Patience.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49512 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:43 pm to
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a PG who is expensive when we could've just drafted one (MCW, Burke)


Oh noez @ spending $11m/yr on an All-Star point guard.
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 12:59 pm to
Yeaa 11 mil AND a first round pick..don't forget that gem.

And the point is, you didn't HAVE to do it. That's how you get yourself in this clusterf*ck with no way out. No cash. No playoffs. No draft pick in arguably one of the best draft classes EVER. Just sayin..
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30110 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Yeaa 11 mil AND a first round pick..don't forget that gem.

And the point is, you didn't HAVE to do it. That's how you get yourself in this clusterf*ck with no way out. No cash. No playoffs. No draft pick in arguably one of the best draft classes EVER. Just sayin..



Okay, say we don't trade noel + pick to Philly. Noel still wouldn't be playing and we'd still be middle of the pack in this draft.

"how would you know that, we could be bottom 3 bad"

We're playing without our all star PG right now and we're middle of the pack.

ETA: and this draft class has lost A LOT of its luster since the start of the season.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:09 pm to
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No draft pick in arguably one of the best draft classes EVER.


Let's see them play a little bit first.
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
52606 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:10 pm to
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ETA: and this draft class has lost A LOT of its luster since the start of the season.

no it hasnt
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61489 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:11 pm to
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We're playing without our all star PG right now and we're middle of the pack.


No Holiday = No Tyreke = Vasquez + Lopez = same team as last year with an improved Davis a healthy and more productive Gordon and $20 million to spend on short term vets like Al Jeff or Paul Millsap. That team would finish 7-10 at worst. I'd be pretty upset too if I was comparing the best case scenario of one situation with the worst case scenario of another.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:16 pm to
Dude. I doubt we select Noel if we weren't going to trade him. So right there, you're off base already. We would've selected a point guard bc that's what we were after all along whether it be by trade to get Holiday (which was to select Noel FOR Philly) or by keeping the pick and selecting either MCW or Burke.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:22 pm to
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no it hasnt


It definitely has.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5872 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:25 pm to
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no it hasnt

Yes it has, and it will be even worse if some of the rumored top players return for another year.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:27 pm to
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You think Jabari is overrated? Good God.


Compared to the expectations of him being the next lebron, Yes.

He's been mediocre in ACC play as well.

Hell he isn't even the best freshman.

quote:

MCW can't shoot so we don't want him? Huh? He's 19ish years old. Oh and I thought I saw a stat where our 11 million dollar SIXTH man shoots 14% from beyond the arch...that sir, is absolutely terrible.


Let's see:

3.6 TOs per game(awful)
39.5 FG%(Terrible)
28.7 3P%( )
On 15.5 shots per game
DRating of 107

He's 22(barely a year younger than jrue)

Need i say more?

quote:

And not getting Drummond with the 10th pick is not a crime, it's reality. It wasn't your pick. He was picked before you. Oh well.
But now if you had some cash, you could maybe lure a native of Nola who plays center for the same team Drummond does.



You misunderstood

I said not being able to get drummond with the 10th pick was a shame(if we were able to,we wouldn't be having this conversation)

quote:

Patience.


Seems like you need some
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63495 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:31 pm to
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Yes it has, and it will be even worse if some of the rumored top players return for another year.


yeah, the enthusiasm has faded somewhat (i, ahem, knew it all along . . . or at least i commented that people were going overboard with the praise). i do think that at least a couple or going to return for a second year, so there's that, too.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30110 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Dude. I doubt we select Noel if we weren't going to trade him. So right there, you're off base already. We would've selected a point guard bc that's what we were after all along whether it be by trade to get Holiday (which was to select Noel FOR Philly) or by keeping the pick and selecting either MCW or Burke.



we weren't after a PG when we had a serviceable one in GV. We pulled the trade because

a. it keeps EG from being emo
b. it was an all-star caliber PG on a trading block

Noel was the consensus #1 draft pick before his injury, you honestly don't think we still would've drafted him knowing we weren't going to be condenders in AD's year 2?

Say we pick up MCW or Burke. We still wouldn't be a bottom 3 team, we'd be the same if not better than what we are this year due to injuries.

JH is 23 years old and averages 14/8 on 45% shooting (33.5 mpg) - shoots the 3rd/4th most on the team

Burke is 21 and averages 12.5/5.5 shooting 37% (30mpg) - shoots 2nd most on his team

MCW is 22 and averages 17/6 on 40% shooting (34.5 mpg) - he also SHOOTS the most on his team

ETA: MCW is "19" hahaha funny.

ETA2: Jrue has never shot below 43%, even on a bad philly team. He's a better PG than the other two and is only 1-2 years older than them.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:55 pm to
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He's been mediocre in ACC play as well.

he had a bad few games to start off, but the past ten games he is 18/10... If those are mediocre numbers than you have very high standards.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:57 pm to
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he had a bad few games to start off, but the past ten games he is 18/10... If those are mediocre numbers than you have very high standards.


With his talent he should be scoring 20+ with ease

Maybe inconsistent is better suited
Posted by Macintosh504
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Member since Sep 2011
52606 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Maybe inconsistent is better suited

He has been pretty consistent for the past month really. He has only had 3 or 4 below average games. Wiggins got more Lebron hype than Parker did

He is also shooting 48% from the Field and 37% from 3. Idk how you can say he is inconsistent.
This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 2:07 pm to
Wiggins was hyped more than Parker for sure. Parker has been beasting as of late and pretty much all year. The guy is a complete basketball player who is going to be an All-Star. And thanks for MCW's rookie stats for a handful of games...28.7% from 3 is still better than our 11mil/year sixth man though.


Posted by SHMILL
The foothills of CO
Member since Oct 2009
999 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 2:10 pm to
Thanks to you as well for MCW and Burke's rookie shooting stats through half the season. Also, the point I was trying to make (seeing as those stats are pretty similar) is that Holiday makes 11 million f*cking dollars a year and MCW and Burke do not. However, you have now shown that their production is very similar. Thank you.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Wiggins was hyped more than Parker for sure. Parker has been beasting as of late and pretty much all year. The guy is a complete basketball player who is going to be an All-Star. And thanks for MCW's rookie stats for a handful of games...28.7% from 3 is still better than our 11mil/year sixth man though.



Uh MCWs stats are for 40+ games(a solid sample size)

Then again you thought he was 19

I also don't think you quite understand about tyreke:

He's used to dominate the 2nd unit in a manu ginobili fashion. Tyreke is also having a PER of 18 this year despite his issues(which he's at times been less than 100%)

An ankle injury can definitely effect his 3 point shooting and we've had issues getting space to begin with.

But please by all means keep hoping for the collapse of the team because you can't stand some of the moves(isn't that what you chicken littles hope for?)

This post was edited on 2/19/14 at 2:18 pm
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