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Pels arent Better w/o Holiday
Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:10 am
Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:10 am
Very interesting read from Pellessier (one of my favorites at BSS).
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More at the link. Short read and worth the time
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So the question has been raised: are the Pelicans better without Jrue Holiday?
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simple answer: no. The Pelicans certainly weren’t better when they were outscored by 8 in the 2nd half against Boston. They weren’t better without Jrue when they lost to the 76ers and the Knicks on the road. The Pelicans resurgence is better explained by these 2 things:
1. The Pelicans are in the midst of their longest stretch of home games to date.
2.Dante Cunningham and Quincy Pondexter are eating up the minutes once occupied by Luke Babbitt and Austin Rivers.
More at the link. Short read and worth the time
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Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:13 am to corndeaux
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2.Dante Cunningham and Quincy Pondexter are eating up the minutes once occupied by Luke Babbitt and Austin Rivers.
Huge difference. I also have to give Monty credit, the way he's used Cunningham and Pondexter has been perfect IMO.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:27 am to corndeaux
But should he start or come off the bench? I think with the way tyreke has been playing jrue would help the team more off the bench
Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:56 am to corndeaux
Wait, Correlation doesn't equal Causation? You're turning my world upside down man 
Posted on 2/4/15 at 7:59 am to SuperSoakher
stagger minutes with holiday Gordon and Evans
easy
this team will be so much better with holiday. holiday and pondexter have played zero minutes together thus far
time to fly (after the break hopefully)
easy
this team will be so much better with holiday. holiday and pondexter have played zero minutes together thus far
time to fly (after the break hopefully)
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:05 am to SuperSoakher
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But should he start or come off the bench? I think with the way tyreke has been playing jrue would help the team more off the bench
I don't think that matters much. There are enough minutes to go around that you can get them all enough time to be happy and productive. The main question is what do you do at the end of games. Unless we're playing small ball, we may only have 2 guard slots available at the end of games. So which 2 of the 3 guards finishes? I'm not sure who you leave out. Jrue's lockdown defense has been difference making, Tyreke is the best shot creator on the team, and Gordon has been playing like a guy you want to get open for a game winning shot.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:28 am to TigerinATL
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I'm not sure who you leave out. Jrue's lockdown defense has been difference making, Tyreke is the best shot creator on the team, and Gordon has been playing like a guy you want to get open for a game winning shot.
It really is a tough one. I keep wanting to say Tyreke but he has been creating great looks for everyone else. I don't know how you leave any of those three out.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:42 am to TigerinATL
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Jrue's lockdown defense has been difference making, Tyreke is the best shot creator on the team, and Gordon has been playing like a guy you want to get open for a game winning shot.
I think it will be a hot hand type thing. If Gordon keeps playing like this, he may be the consistent because of his value on both ends of the court, whereas Evans/Holiday comes down to offense/defense.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 8:45 am to corndeaux
Do they get paid to write that stuff?
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:12 am to SuperSoakher
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But should he start or come off the bench?
That's sort of his point; they were equally dominant at home with Holiday in the lineup.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:13 am to TigerinATL
That's why they pay me the big bucks to be an anonymous internet commenter
Posted on 2/4/15 at 9:15 am to cgrand
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holiday and pondexter have played zero minutes together thus far
I was surprised when I read this for the first time yesterday. It feels good to have a 8 man rotations of legit NBA players, and that's not counting Ajnica and Jimmer who have both have good spurts lately.
Back to the subject- I do think this team is better with Jrue, it's just up to Monty to figure out how to utilize the lineups correctly.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 10:49 am to mm2316
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it's just up to Monty to figure out how to utilize the lineups correctly.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:01 am to corndeaux
The Pelicans resurgence is better explained by these 2 things:
1. The Pelicans are in the midst of their longest stretch of home games to date.
2.Dante Cunningham and Quincy Pondexter are eating up the minutes once occupied by Luke Babbitt and Austin Rivers.
I disagree.
1. The Pelicans are in the midst of their longest stretch of home games to date.
2.Dante Cunningham and Quincy Pondexter are eating up the minutes once occupied by Luke Babbitt and Austin Rivers.
I disagree.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:03 am to corndeaux
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Luke Babbitt
I wish he would eat up Salmons minutes
Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:08 am to ShamelessPel
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I disagree.
Care to elaborate? Or are you saying you think it is Holiday's absence that has made the team better?
Posted on 2/4/15 at 11:47 am to TigerinATL
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Care to elaborate?
Assists in the last 5 wins - 17, 27 (this is where Tyreke the Distributor started), 28, 26, 30.
Eric Gordon is playing his best basketball in NOLA.
Pondexter's veteran leadership has been even more important than his on court play, and Davis has alluded to as much.
Ryno is shooting 44% in the last 5, but more importantly 46% from 3 (12 of 26).
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Or are you saying you think it is Holiday's absence that has made the team better?
Absolutely not. Holiday running the second unit with Pondexter and Anderson brings our bench from crap to fairly decent. To think we are playing extremely well without him. If he can come back and contribute 25-30 minutes a night off the bench (I don't want to wear him down and I think that will allow him to go balls to the wall as well), this team will be a team that no one will want to see in the playoffs. Except for GSW, they are a match-up nightmare.
Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:09 pm to ShamelessPel
Gotcha 
This post was edited on 2/4/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 2/4/15 at 12:50 pm to ShamelessPel
Agree Mr. Pel
Posted on 2/4/15 at 1:58 pm to ShamelessPel
I don't disagree with anything you said. But I'm not seeing how competent role players (better defense, more ball and off ball movement, etc) and playing at home aren't the driving forces of of this stretch of good play. The home/road splits alone are staggering.
Or are you looking at it more stylistically? With the ball movement etc? I'm no super Holiday fan either. Just curious, SP.
Or are you looking at it more stylistically? With the ball movement etc? I'm no super Holiday fan either. Just curious, SP.
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