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Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:00 am to GEAUXmedic
Do not want
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:46 am to SenorTiger9
Not sure if anyone cares but I think he can be signed and traded from Portland. This makes the situation a little more realistic than just dangling the min out.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:48 am to 42
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Not sure if anyone cares but I think he can be signed and traded from Portland.
buh bye jsmoove.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:51 am to Chad504boy
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buh bye jsmoove.
Shut your whore mouth!
Posted on 7/15/13 at 11:52 am to 42
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I think he can be signed and traded from Portland
This is no doubt true. Teams hold on to rights until they have reason to drop them. From a Larry Coon chat:
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Right now the oldest one is the Lakers’ rights to John Salley, from 2000. The Lakers’ holds will certainly be recycled in 2014, and I imagine the Celtics will try to use cap room before too long as well.
For those of you wondering what we’re talking about, teams retain Bird rights to their players until they either re-sign, sign with another team, or the team renounces them. When a player ends his playing career, the cap hold remains — a team could theoretically sign a player out of retirement with Bird rights, which is exactly what the Lakers did with Aaron McKie as part of the Pau Gasol trade.
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:28 pm to TigerinATL
Looks like the best they can do is a Lopez style contract but starting at the Room MLE. Stiemsma money.
Best for all parties, I mean. More guaranteed is better for Oden, but that is pretty much the most they can give in 1y and still back out later.
Best for all parties, I mean. More guaranteed is better for Oden, but that is pretty much the most they can give in 1y and still back out later.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:30 pm to GEAUXmedic
Please god be a pelican!
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:47 pm to 42
So 2.7 million range?
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:50 pm to WhoDatPelican596
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Please god be a pelican!
I really hope you don't complain about Eric Gordon if you're dying to have Greg Oden. The dude has chronic knee issues. He will never be a quality contributor in the NBA. People want to take the risk because he'll come cheap but he will be lucky to play half a season for the rest of his career. I'd rather Benson keep the money than tie it up with Oden.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:51 pm to tehchampion140
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hope you don't complain about Eric Gordon if you're dying to have Greg Oden.
um lets see, 5 million dollars vs 58 million dollars. Great comparison.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:55 pm to Chad504boy
Fair enough, but you want a guy who hasn't played a game since 2010 due to injuries but freak out when Gordon has to miss back-to-back games.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:56 pm to Chad504boy
I'm concerned that if they have "sit down" Oden may have trouble getting back up.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 12:58 pm to tehchampion140
You know that's a really shitty comparison, right? You have to know that's a bad comparison.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 1:03 pm to ShoeBang
If we were to sign him and he can stay healthy (I know this is a longshot), we should most definitely be in playoff contention this season.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 1:11 pm to Mr.Perfect
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So 2.7 million range?
The team would have to give up a lot to do that though. They can take back 150% of what they send out which roughly means they have to send $1.75 million out. Roberts alone isn't enough, he only makes $788,872. Assuming you don't want to move an expected rotation player like Smith or Rivers, that means Roberts + Lance Thomas + Pierre Jackson, although I'm not sure the last 2 are tradeable since they just signed.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 1:12 pm to hendersonshands
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You know that's a really shitty comparison, right? You have to know that's a bad comparison.
Just don't know why people are ecstatic to go after a guy who can't stay healty when that's their main knock on Gordon, and Gordon has had much less serious issues. I understand it'll be a cheap risk but there is literally nothing that indicates Oden will be able to ever contribute in the NBA again.
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The team would have to give up a lot to do that though. They can take back 150% of what they send out which roughly means they have to send $1.75 million out. Roberts alone isn't enough, he only makes $788,872. Assuming you don't want to move an expected rotation player like Smith or Rivers, that means Roberts + Lance Thomas + Pierre Jackson, although I'm not sure the last 2 are tradeable since they just signed.
Don't want to give up anything on this team to get him so definitely a "no" now.
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Posted on 7/15/13 at 1:15 pm to tehchampion140
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Just don't know why people are ecstatic to go after a guy who can't stay healty when that's their main knock on Gordon
It's seen as a low risk, high reward move. Gordon is seen as the primary payment for CP3, there was a lot more at stake choosing him and the stakes got higher when we had to match Phoenix's offer. They really are very different gambles even though the players involved have similar issues.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 1:16 pm to tehchampion140
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Don't want to give up anything on this team to get him so definitely a "no" now.
I see Roberts as pretty expendable, but I wouldn't want to give up more than that unless I had a pretty good idea that Oden would stay healthy.
Posted on 7/15/13 at 1:21 pm to TigerinATL
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I see Roberts as pretty expendable, but I wouldn't want to give up more than that unless I had a pretty good idea that Oden would stay healthy.
I like Roberts a lot as a bench player, though. He'll be a lot more expendable if Pierre Jackson can play at a high level but I'd rather not give up one of our best bench players to go after Oden. I understand that it's low risk, high reward, but I really have no faith that he will ever produce at a high level. Stiemsma will probably be a better starting center this year than him, and it's only a matter of time before he has another catastrophic knee injury.
I think this whole argument is moot anyway, because the Pelicans are probably near the bottom of the list of teams he would play for on a cheap contract.
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