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Posted on 1/23/24 at 9:56 am to shel311
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I'll ask again, you think Rozier is worth more than a 1st?
Yes. Especially considering it's a Miami 1st.
How many players outside the top 14 of this past years draft would you take instead of rozier?
ETA - Heat saving ~6mm with this trade, too.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:00 am to SouthMSReb
quote:I don't think there's a single team in the NBA that would give up 2 1sts for Rozier
Yes. Especially considering it's a Miami 1st.
How many players outside the top 10 of this past years draft would you take instead of rozier?
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:02 am to shel311
Woj saying Charlotte is not done yet and are looking to aquire more future assets before the deadline.
As a hunch they will probably end up buying out Hayward also
As a hunch they will probably end up buying out Hayward also
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:07 am to Soggymoss
Too bad we don't have any cap space. He would be a nice signing on the buyout market
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:11 am to supe12sta12z
quote:I'm not the biggest cap guru but I imagine we have room with the cap exceptions.
Too bad we don't have any cap space. He would be a nice signing on the buyout market
And if Lowry is going to sign a vet minimum, then I also think you can sign any player at any time to a minimum deal regardless of cap situations.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:12 am to supe12sta12z
We have enough room under the tax to sign him to a vet minimum deal if we would choose to do so
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:13 am to Soggymoss
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Woj saying Charlotte is not done yet and are looking to aquire more future assets before the deadline.
ok. what do you have to offer?
You aren't trading Lamelo.
You aren't trading Miller.
You aren't trading Bridges.
I doubt you're trading Mark Williams.
No one is giving up anything for Hayward.
So are they saying Nick Richards and PJ Washington are available? Is Nick Smith Jr available as well?
Is anyone giving up a 1st for Richards or Smith?
PJ Washington has regressed a bit and is actually shooting pretty bad this year, 32% from 3, adn he's not even starting anymore, and he was 35% last year from 3 after shooting 38% his first 3 years.
Is anyone giving up a 1st for 3 more years of $17M/yr 32% PJ Washington?
Griff.......maybe sit this one out.
and i would be ok giving up a 1st to get someone like Richards, if we got back a 2nd round pick from someone like Charlotte, as well as another future 2nd. That's bascially just moving back about 10 spots in the draft. But Charlotte doesn't own their 2nd this year.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:14 am to supe12sta12z
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Too bad we don't have any cap space. He would be a nice signing on the buyout market
As others have said, they could sign someone to a minimum and stay under the tax. But if you do that you can't also convert Ryan so he's available for the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:15 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:16 am to TeddyPadillac
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ok. what do you have to offer?
I think the implication is reflipping Lowry's expiring for a bad contract and picks.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:23 am to TigerinATL
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I think the implication is reflipping Lowry's expiring for a bad contract and picks.
Yeah they have Hayward's 30m expiring and Lowry's 30m expiring so they could take back a lot of bad salary for picks. They arent going anywhere soon so might as well
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:23 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Richards and 2 future 2nds for our 2024 1st would not be a terrible trade if we think he has a future. He has looked pretty good in limited play. Just a matter of what player(s) you attach to ensure you do not go back into the tax.
ok. what do you have to offer?
You aren't trading Lamelo.
You aren't trading Miller.
You aren't trading Bridges.
I doubt you're trading Mark Williams.
No one is giving up anything for Hayward.
So are they saying Nick Richards and PJ Washington are available? Is Nick Smith Jr available as well?
Is anyone giving up a 1st for Richards or Smith?
PJ Washington has regressed a bit and is actually shooting pretty bad this year, 32% from 3, adn he's not even starting anymore, and he was 35% last year from 3 after shooting 38% his first 3 years.
Is anyone giving up a 1st for 3 more years of $17M/yr 32% PJ Washington?
Griff.......maybe sit this one out.
and i would be ok giving up a 1st to get someone like Richards, if we got back a 2nd round pick from someone like Charlotte, as well as another future 2nd. That's bascially just moving back about 10 spots in the draft. But Charlotte doesn't own their 2nd this year.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:26 am to NOSHAU
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Richards and 2 future 2nds for our 2024 1st would not be a terrible trade if we think he has a future. He has looked pretty good in limited minutes. Just a matter of what player(s) you attach to ensure you do not go back into the tax.
I wouldnt hate that at all. The 24 draft is terrible.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:28 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:agree
I wouldnt hate that at all. The 24 draft is terrible.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:28 am to TigerinATL
What team has a really bad contract they need to get rid of?
that they woudl offer a 1st for you to take it.
I legit can't think of one.
There's some contracts out there that maybe teams don't want anymore, but they aren't giving away assets to get rid of it.
Bogdanvic in ATL comes to mind. He's got 3 years left at $19M/yr, but he's still a really good 3 shooter/scorer. They aren't attaching assets to get rid of him. Same with the Kings and Huerter and his 2 years left at $16M/yr. They aren't attaching assets to get rid of him.
Most of the bad contracts bad players out there are expiring this year.
I guess you could say D'Angelo Russell and his $17M, but the Lakers don't have anythig to give up, and he's shooting 41% from 3. he's not a contract you have to attach assets to in order to get rid of.
that they woudl offer a 1st for you to take it.
I legit can't think of one.
There's some contracts out there that maybe teams don't want anymore, but they aren't giving away assets to get rid of it.
Bogdanvic in ATL comes to mind. He's got 3 years left at $19M/yr, but he's still a really good 3 shooter/scorer. They aren't attaching assets to get rid of him. Same with the Kings and Huerter and his 2 years left at $16M/yr. They aren't attaching assets to get rid of him.
Most of the bad contracts bad players out there are expiring this year.
I guess you could say D'Angelo Russell and his $17M, but the Lakers don't have anythig to give up, and he's shooting 41% from 3. he's not a contract you have to attach assets to in order to get rid of.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:29 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Simmons? Do the Nets have any future 1sts?
What team has a really bad contract they need to get rid of?
that they woudl offer a 1st for you to take it.
I legit can't think of one.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:31 am to NOSHAU
I think ya'll are sleeping on Rozier a bit. Dude can score and the Heat need scoring.
That launches Miami into a contender in the East IMO.
Rozier
Herro
Robinson
Butler
That rookie
BAM
Not bad. This definitely IMO pushes them into the top 2-3 in the East.
I like them better than the Sixers now.
That launches Miami into a contender in the East IMO.
Rozier
Herro
Robinson
Butler
That rookie
BAM
Not bad. This definitely IMO pushes them into the top 2-3 in the East.
I like them better than the Sixers now.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:32 am to TeddyPadillac
I'm not saying their plan is going to work, this is Charlotte after all. But this is what Woj said their goals are.
LINK
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Charlotte is discussing other deals on their veteran players ahead of the trade deadline and plans to continue accumulating assets, sources told ESPN.
The Hornets will work to move Lowry, 37, onto another team before the deadline, but short of finding a deal for him and his $29.6 million expiring contract, he could eventually become a contract buyout candidate, sources said.
LINK
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:32 am to TigerinATL
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I think the implication is reflipping Lowry's expiring for a bad contract and picks.
Another report mentioned that contenders were interested in Richards and Washington.
I wouldn't mind trading out of the terrible 2024 draft in order to get Richards.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 10:34 am to NOSHAU
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Simmons? Do the Nets have any future 1sts?
But they aren't winning this year, and he expires next year, so they probably want to hold onto him in the offseason and next years trade deadline to use to make a big trade, not just simply offload him right now.
That's the issue i see, what player is so bad right now compared to his contract that has at least 3 years left that a good team wants to give up a 1st to get rid of right now?
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