re: Ish Smith

All of those guys don't play the same spot.

Ish, Evans, and Holiday are creators.

The other guys + Holiday are off ball wings. I have no desire to see Norris Cole run an offense, regardless of his position.

Certain groupings, like Ish/Cole and Gee w/o shooters, are bad. I'd toss Ish/Evans in there too. But there are a ton of reasonable options. And, like you say, Holiday can't be trusted to play big minutes on a consistent basis.

Its not just counting out minutes; its finding workable skill sets.