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I'm salty about the Damian Lillard news

Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:42 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:42 pm
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The league advised Lillard and Goodwin that any future comments “suggesting Lillard will not fully perform the services called for under his player contract in the event of a trade” will be subject to discipline, as will be any similar comments by players or agents moving forward.


Where the frick was this during the AD bullshite?
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:51 pm to
League needs to start doing this in earnest at some point in time. Sadly, yesterday isn’t an option.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:07 pm to
LA Lakers darling franchise.

Only occurs when it's not them
Posted by lil 7thward
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Where the frick was this during the AD bullshite?
This was the first thing that I thought about.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Where the frick was this during the AD bullshite?


2 things. First is squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Klutch/Lebron complained to Silver about Davis and probably threatened to get the Union involved.

The second is in both case the league sided with the star player playing in front of ticket buying fans.

This isn't even really comparable to the Davis situation. There have been many ones since then that have been, like John Wall, and I think the difference is those players either didn't make a big deal about playing, or they didn't have Klutch/LeBron to bully the league.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 8:22 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:22 pm to
The league is probably looking at time left on contract also, AD had one year left, Dame has 4.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

This isn't even really comparable to the Davis situation


You're right. The Davis situation was worse. The Rich Paul interview, his dad speaking, it was far more blatant than what's been reported by Dames camp
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Where the frick was this during the AD bullshite?


Dame tried this right after they just put in a new CBA.

What’s the NBAPA going to do over this, strike?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

The league is probably looking at time left on contract also, AD had one year left, Dame has 4.

I think I agree with this. What AD did was shitty but he I'm pretty sure he wasn't the first person with an expiring contract to force his way to a team.

What Dame is doing is setting a new precedent
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:57 pm to
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I think I agree with this. What AD did was shitty but he I'm pretty sure he wasn't the first person with an expiring contract to force his way to a team.

What Dame is doing is setting a new precedent

Correct
Posted by bonethug0180
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 1:39 am to
To take that further, even though he wanted the Lakers we were leveraging with other teams that I think could gave become his destination if the offers were much better.

Seems Dame is saying ONLY Miami.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:12 am to
AD was playing a similar game to Dame by only claiming teams which has no assets other than LAL and having his dad shite in Boston, which was the main team which DID have the assets for a deal.


He wasn’t saying “only LA” but structuring it to where LA was the only choice and trying to force it about a week before the trade deadline.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:17 am to
He also evolved his position over time to tighten the noose to LAL.

Dame's agent is apparently straight up threatening teams from the get go.

Also, other than this and the years remaining issue, the "player empowerment era" is dying...and so many of these deals being done post-AD has left a barren landscape of teams with assets. At least LAL had something to give. Portland will have to take on toxic/negative assets to move Dame. They will lose the trade in the short and long terms and receive assets with negative value.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:20 am to
Still waiting for the year where every pick in the first belongs to OKC, Utah, Houston, and SAS.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

He wasn’t saying “only LA” but structuring it to where LA was the only choice and trying to force it about a week before the trade deadline.



Davis had only one year left on his contract, and he was saying that he wouldn't re-sign anywhere but L.A., which meant that other teams backed off, because they didn't want to pay a fortune for a one-year rental.

That's very, very different from a player saying that they will not perform the duties to which he has contractually bound himself. "I won't play" is an entire level worse than "I won't re-sign," exactly because it mocks the CBA.

I'm no fan of Anthony Davis, but what Dame did was much worse.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:09 am to
He had more than a year left on the contract when the mess started, IIRC.

He had about 2.5 left, with the final one being a player option, and tried to force his way out right before the deadline when most people thought a decision point would be in the offseason after he officially passed on a super max.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21048 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 9:16 am to
Davis told his teammates at the beginning of the season he was leaving, like a fricking bitch.

quote:

If the Celtics want to trade for Anthony Davis this summer, the superstar's agent has a warning for Danny Ainge and company: Davis will be a one-year rental


frick rich Paul.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/29/23 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Davis told his teammates at the beginning of the season he was leaving, like a fricking bitch.



True. Davis sold his teammates out. But from Adam Silver's perspective, what Lillard is doing is worse.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6999 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

frick rich Paul.


This is the way...
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 3:22 pm to
I think a big reason for the nba sending out the memo is Lillard and his agent hinting or implying that he if was traded to anyone other than Miami, he would either sit out or not really play hard. Dame pushed too hard to go to Miami and has been more reckless with this trade demand than Beta Toni was. Even though Rich Paul was heavy handed about AD going to the Lakers, they never publicly said he wouldn’t play for anyone else. Dame has 4 years left on his contract and his agent is telling teams he won’t play or won’t fulfill his obligations if doesn’t go to Miami. I don’t think anyone with that many years on their contract have has done something quite like this before.
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