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if the cousins experiment somehow does not work out
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:56 am
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:56 am
and we end up trading him to a team like Cleveland for brooklyn's first and shumpart (feasible mostly because Lebron and Cousins could very well stop the Warriors), its not ideal, but its still not a terrible situation.
if we totally flounder and get a top 5-10 pick, plus Brooklyns, that's two lottery picks in a top-heavy draft. not to mention demps and most likely gentry are gone. not sure about the rest of you, but i could handle losing Cousins at the expense of picking up porter and one of the multitude of stud big men, plus a contributing free agent or two with Cousins cap space, and a front office/coaching overhaul.
i'd rather Cousins and Davis work out, but if it doesn't, I'm still semi-positive about the Pel's longterm future.
if we totally flounder and get a top 5-10 pick, plus Brooklyns, that's two lottery picks in a top-heavy draft. not to mention demps and most likely gentry are gone. not sure about the rest of you, but i could handle losing Cousins at the expense of picking up porter and one of the multitude of stud big men, plus a contributing free agent or two with Cousins cap space, and a front office/coaching overhaul.
i'd rather Cousins and Davis work out, but if it doesn't, I'm still semi-positive about the Pel's longterm future.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 9:57 am
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:07 am to Machine
I don't think Cleveland would trade that pick for Cousins. They know Lebron is gone and the pick is probably better for their future than Cousins.
If Cousins is to be traded, it's to a team like Boston or the Bucks, young teams who are trying to overtake Cleveland and have assets to give.
If Cousins is to be traded, it's to a team like Boston or the Bucks, young teams who are trying to overtake Cleveland and have assets to give.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:09 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:i understand that, but i think Gilbert is out of touch with reality and thinks LBJ will stay. couple that with really wanting to beat the Warriors, and i can definitely see that happening.
I don't think Cleveland would trade that pick for Cousins. They know Lebron is gone and the pick is probably better for their future than Cousins.
If Cousins is to be traded, it's to a team like Boston or the Bucks, young teams who are trying to overtake Cleveland and have assets to give.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:14 am to Machine
I would not object to it at all, even if the experiment is working somewhat and we are around .500.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:17 am to Machine
quote:
its still not a terrible situation.
I think it is. If AD/DC fail I don't see how you attract another #2 soon enough for AD to want to stay.
I'd almost consider the opposite route. If AD/DC was so bad that you knew you were going to lose both, would trading AD to build around Cousins be better than going into complete rebuild mode?
AD to Boston for their young SFs Brown and Tatum, filler and picks. Trade some of the picks and filler for Bledsoe.
Bledsoe
Holiday
Tatum/Brown
Diallo
Cousins
Otherwise your tanking with the hope you get a guy as good as Cousins, let alone AD.
It'd be pretty hard to arrive at the decision to pick Cousins over AD, but if we're talking specifically about the scenario where those 2 just don't fit together, which I completely disagree with, then you trade AD and keep Cousins if the alternate path is tearing it all down.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:18 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:cav homer sites seem to think the brooklyn pick may be enough, but if not shumpert would be okay to part with. granted its homer sites, but honestly i'd be okay with just the first pick, too, if cousins really isn't working out
I would not object to it at all, even if the experiment is working somewhat and we are around .500.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:20 am to TigerinATL
quote:not me, man. Keep AD at all costs. try to build around him until its too late (2019-20?).
If AD/DC was so bad that you knew you were going to lose both, would trading AD to build around Cousins be better than going into complete rebuild mode?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:30 am to Machine
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try to build around him until its too late (2019-20?).
That's almost always what teams do and it's almost always a losing proposition. Who are you targeting as your #2 if Boogie doesn't work out? Looking at the possible star level players I could see moving at best you're probably talking Lillard or McCollum. I'm not saying that's bad, but is that going to be enough to keep AD in a West that might have LeBron reviving the Lakers while Boston is offering a cakewalk to the Finals and a way to leave that doesn't completely screw New Orleans in the process?
The team had it's prayers answered when Vivek fell in love with Buddy. I wouldn't expect lightning to strike twice. If this doesn't work out I'd assume AD is as good as gone. Cal can't even be a trump card now that Wall took his payday.
But I believe Fire and Ice will work out and this is all moot.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:45 pm to Machine
The season hasn't even started, and we're throwing up the L's. Terrible.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 9/22/17 at 1:54 pm to Machine
quote:Unless it's due to injuries from our big 3, if this happens, blow it up...trade all of our assets for picks.
if the cousins experiment somehow does not work out
Posted on 9/22/17 at 2:22 pm to shel311
I saw Greg Monroe at the Elmwood Chipotle today.
Maybe Dealin' Dell has a double secret backup plan already in place.
Maybe Dealin' Dell has a double secret backup plan already in place.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 2:39 pm to Sheep
Monroe ain't no star.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 2:41 pm to Bonkers119
quote:definitely
The season hasn't even started, and we're throwing up the L's. Terrible.
i've given up the season because i'm considering all possible outcomes of the first half of basketball. solid deduction Bonkers
Posted on 9/22/17 at 2:57 pm to TigerinATL
If you're going to trade AD, then why not trade AD and DC? Completely hit reset and be ready to compete when the Warriors and Cavs are fading out...?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:21 pm to PTinBR
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then why not trade AD and DC?
A bird in the hand. People seem to forget how close the Pels were to rebuilding around a core of Eric Gordon and Thomas Robinson. Without lottery luck we'd be another Orland Magic right now. A collection of young talent that is not terrible but also not good enough to win or return much in trade.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 3:55 pm to PTinBR
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f you're going to trade AD, then why not trade AD and DC? Completely hit reset and be ready to compete when the Warriors and Cavs are fading out...?
So, you're saying re-locate the franchise?
Posted on 9/22/17 at 4:16 pm to VOR
That's a good point, but I was thinking for more of a Boston type rebuild.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 2:10 am to Sheep
Monroe is from Louisiana.
He is working in Wisconsin.
People sometimes visit their families. Especially before the season.
He is working in Wisconsin.
People sometimes visit their families. Especially before the season.
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