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If given the opportunity would you trade Zion and a 1st for LaMelo Ball?
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:27 am
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:27 am
I know there’s a risk of trading one unhappy player for another since LaMelo’s dad would be pissed but just looking at it from a basketball perspective. You lose a generational talent in Zion but one that has major injury worries which is why I attach a protected 1st with the deal. Zion gets to go home and would probably actually play basketball again and we finally get the floor general PG we have been needing. You’d then conceivably have a starting 5 of
PG: Ball
SG: CJ
SF: BI
PF: Jaxon
C: Jonas
You could start Herb at SF and BI as a small 4 too. Not that it would ever happen just curious what everyone thinks.
PG: Ball
SG: CJ
SF: BI
PF: Jaxon
C: Jonas
You could start Herb at SF and BI as a small 4 too. Not that it would ever happen just curious what everyone thinks.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:28 am to LSUPilot07
Uh, I hate Zion, but he is worth more than fricking LaMelo
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:31 am to LSUPilot07
This is one of the dumber ones I’ve seen recently. Let’s give up a generational talent and a first for another overhyped ball brother
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:33 am to Mystictiger
At this point, I’d think long and hard about it minus the first.
Lamelo has about the same chance of staying past his second contract as Zion, but Lamelo is a legit floor raiser and most importantly, can stay healthy.
You aren’t chipping with him as your best player(not sure we are with Zion and this team either), but Lamelo/CJ/BI/Herb/Jonas is a top 5, second round team in the west.
The real question is, and it speaks to where Zion’s current value probably is, is does Cha take the trade? And I think they emphatically say no.
Lamelo has about the same chance of staying past his second contract as Zion, but Lamelo is a legit floor raiser and most importantly, can stay healthy.
You aren’t chipping with him as your best player(not sure we are with Zion and this team either), but Lamelo/CJ/BI/Herb/Jonas is a top 5, second round team in the west.
The real question is, and it speaks to where Zion’s current value probably is, is does Cha take the trade? And I think they emphatically say no.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 9:39 am
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:34 am to SCLSUMuddogs
We just rid ourselves of one of those ugly fricks and you want another?
frick no
frick no
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:39 am to LSUPilot07
Better chance of reuniting Dame and CJ down here.
I can't even bring myself to think of what the trade could look like, too many differentiating views on each player's tradability and worth to seriously think about.
I can't even bring myself to think of what the trade could look like, too many differentiating views on each player's tradability and worth to seriously think about.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:08 am to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:Somebody hasn't been watching basketball this season.
Let’s give up a generational talent and a first for another overhyped ball brother
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:10 am to purplepylon
I’m not saying LaMelo is on Zion’s level I’m just saying his trade value is shite right now with the Greg Oden comparisons going around so I was just putting a hypothetical out there to get something of decent value for a guy who clearly isn’t going to play for us. One thing is for damn sure I don’t care what they offered I wouldn’t trade Zion to the Knicks just to give a big frick you to him.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:16 am to shel311
quote:
Somebody hasn't been watching basketball this season.
Lonzo is even more overhyped now than he’s ever been. He was better last year by most metrics.
Aside from 3’s, where is one area where he’s improved? I can list several where he’s regressed. Dudes hitting the worst percentage on 2’s in his career, he’s averaging more turnovers and less assists. He’s supposed to be a point guard
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:19 am to LSUPilot07
Lol, I’d trade Zion for lamelo without the first , straight up , today.
I’m more optimistic on Zion than y’all too.
Pels are dangerous as frick with lamelo at point and cj at the two . You gotta get what you can get for him before it gets worse, if it’s possible to get it done.
Nobody is trading a top young pg for Zion att
I’m more optimistic on Zion than y’all too.
Pels are dangerous as frick with lamelo at point and cj at the two . You gotta get what you can get for him before it gets worse, if it’s possible to get it done.
Nobody is trading a top young pg for Zion att
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:20 am to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:And you confirmed my suspicion
Lonzo is even more overhyped now than he’s ever been. He was better last year by most metrics
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:23 am to shel311
I give stats, ask for some I’m return, you provide an emoji and assume you’ve won the argument. Such is life in Pels talk
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:24 am to LSUPilot07
quote:
I’m not saying LaMelo is on Zion’s level I’m just saying his trade value is shite right now with the Greg Oden comparisons going around so I was just putting a hypothetical out there to get something of decent value for a guy who clearly isn’t going to play for us. One thing is for damn sure I don’t care what they offered I wouldn’t trade Zion to the Knicks just to give a big frick you to him.
Based on the Devonte Graham hyperbole going into the season, I would suspect a lot of people on this board have watched 1 or fewer non-Pels related Hornets games in the last 2 years.
Lamelo didnt luck into the all star game, he's having a great year, his eventual ceiling is top 15 player and top 3 point guard in the league, best defensive point guard.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:24 am to LSUPilot07
Yes, because even if Zion is a better asset in our minds I don't think there is a better option out there in return. You rarely ever are able to win these kind of trades. Don't know about attaching the 1st tho.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:24 am to LSUPilot07
quote:
reg Oden comparisons going around so I was just putting a hypothetical out there to get something of decent value for a guy who clearly isn’t going to play for us
A lot of wrong here, but I agree with the overall premise. 1st, he will play for us again when healthy because he knows it’s in his best interest to do so. The dude will get healthy eventually, do you expect him to just quit basketball when he gets healthy. He’s got to play some before he gets a ton of interest. Now if you can trade for a great player now then that’s great, but it won’t happen.
2nd why is there oden comps? Just because he had the same injury? Oden was an 8 ppg guy when healthy. Zion is in a different stratosphere then that , avg well over 20 with assists to boot .
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:30 am to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:
Aside from 3’s, where is one area where he’s improved?
He and Herb have been statistically the best perimeter defenders in the league this year according to BBall Index's advanced tracking metrics.
A 40%+ 3point shooter on high volume with All Team Defensive D on the perimeter is not a bad player. Lonzo's biggest drawback right now is his health. We actually largely dodged that bullet but in LA and now Chicago health has been a huge problem.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 11:00 am to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:1. You didn't give stats
I give stats, ask for some I’m return, you provide an emoji and assume you’ve won the argument. Such is life in Pels talk
2. You got the wrong player
So yea, the laughing emoji was certainly warranted there.
Posted on 2/23/22 at 11:38 am to Bronc
Having LaMelo and Herb on the floor together would be defensive nightmares for teams. Ball can guard 1-3 and Herb 2-4. Put that with shooters like CJ and BI and a high flyer like Jaxon with Ball’s passing ability and that’s a damn scary team.
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