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re: I guess Buddy is out of the rotation for the time being
Posted on 11/20/16 at 12:47 pm to cgrand
Posted on 11/20/16 at 12:47 pm to cgrand
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hield looks lost on the floor right now and that's ok if his shot was falling he could come in and do the microwave role but it's just not happening at the moment. Let him regroup and watch and practice and let's see what happens he hasn't earned minutes thus far
I'm not going to disagree, but I think it's fair to feel he's held to a different standard. thats my only point. He came in vs Portland had a great little end to the first and we don't see him again. Played a nice 2nd half vs another team (2/3 5 pts 2 assists in limited minutes) and got yanked. Those moments where he seems to have it don't translate into playing time, when he has "earned" time.
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Posted on 11/20/16 at 12:56 pm to ShamelessPel
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I think it's fair to feel he's held to a different standard.
I don't think it's as black and white as results. Look back to the comments I posted of Zach Lowe on Myles Turner having to guess at everything as a rookie. When the non rookies mess up they understand why they messed up and coaches can talk to them quickly about how to correct things. Rookies on the other hand probably require a bit more hand holding to do what you need them to do. Go back to Monty's comments on wanting to coach, not teach. Turner seemed to credit getting away from guessing with film study, from the coaches' perspective there literally may not be any development benefit seen to having him out there missing assignments and not understanding why, so it's easy to understand him losing time to vets that have played very well in recent games when Hield has been so inconsistent with his shot.
Posted on 11/20/16 at 11:26 pm to TigerinATL
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Hield has been so inconsistent with his shot.
and the tension builds. 0-2 from 3 pt. 5 minutes of play 1 for 4.
I betcha that if he were 2-2 from 3 pt line, he would not have been benched.
they won in OT. welcome back Jrue. 9 assists. Amen.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:10 am to TigerinATL
sometimes college off the bounce volume shooters just can't get their shots off in the NBA
I am in no way comparing the two but the jimmer is averaging 40 ppg and shooting 45% from 3 in China. He obviously didn't forget how to shoot
buddy brings more to the table clearly but he needs to figure out how to get clear and get his shot up cleanly and without rushing it. What I see is that he is just hoisting a lot of times and not squaring up
I am in no way comparing the two but the jimmer is averaging 40 ppg and shooting 45% from 3 in China. He obviously didn't forget how to shoot
buddy brings more to the table clearly but he needs to figure out how to get clear and get his shot up cleanly and without rushing it. What I see is that he is just hoisting a lot of times and not squaring up
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:36 am to cgrand
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sometimes college off the bounce volume shooters just can't get their shots off in the NBA
This makes no sense, I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's nonsensical. Jimmer was missing ridiculously open shots. That has to be the exception and not the rule, right?
Posted on 11/21/16 at 7:38 am to cgrand
I agree with all of this. I think you also have to add the speed of the game. Every NBA player is big, fast, strong, elite athlete. It will take him some time to get used to the speed of the game and how fast guys close out on shooters.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:09 am to ShamelessPel
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You can't give Monty credit for these players going to other teams and taking the leap. That's just nuts. If anything, it works the other way around. He had more to work with than we thought. Lopez went from a defensive liability to a stallwart in Portland. Aminu finally developed out there. Vasquez plays significant minutes on a good team. We'd kill to get Withey back for Frenchy.
Dude, they didn't go to other teams and take some enormous leap. You are just being obtuse and refusing to acknowledge that those guys all made their leaps here, then left. Aminu is the only one that you could argue took a leap when he left, but most intelligent observers could see that Aminu's issue here was being shoe-horned into a role that he didn't fit by the shitty roster build.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:13 am to TigerinATL
I have no idea what the explanation is but jimmer couldn't miss in college and he couldn't make in the league. He's back to college level competition and now he can't miss again.
word was jimmers work ethic was shite so maybe that's the reason
word was jimmers work ethic was shite so maybe that's the reason
Posted on 11/21/16 at 8:15 am to cgrand
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I have no idea what the explanation is but jimmer couldn't miss in college and he couldn't make in the league. He's back to college level competition and now he can't miss again.
word was jimmers work ethic was shite so maybe that's the reason
Honestly, I think he had serious confidence issues in the NBA. Against lesser competition, he probably isn't pressing and is just firing away with very little thought. He wasn't given that kind of rope in the NBA, nor should he have been, but that's on him to figure out the mental part.
Frankly, he needed that Steph swagger.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 10:08 am to NorthshoreTiger76
its almost like he isn't as good as most of you thought
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:08 am to cgrand
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I have no idea what the explanation is but jimmer couldn't miss in college and he couldn't make in the league. He's back to college level competition and now he can't miss again.
Shooting is as much mental as it is physical. What's going on between the ears matters.
Buddy just needs to get his confidence going. I don't think he'll ever be an All-Star necessarily, but there's no reason he can't be JJ Redick, who also, you'll remember, took time adjusting to the league.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:04 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
I wish we would of taken Murray.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:14 pm to Santa Clause
I don't understand why he was not in the game when we were up 25 points. Give him some time on the court in a game that we have in hand instead of putting more minutes on AD and Jrue (especially on the first game of a BTB).
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:28 pm to NOSHAU
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I don't understand why he was not in the game when we were up 25 points. Give him some time on the court in a game that we have in hand instead of putting more minutes on AD and Jrue (especially on the first game of a BTB).
Not Gentry's biggest fan, but I'm ok with his choice in this spot. Up 30+ late into the 3rd, have it get to 18-20 with 10:30 or so left. This loss could have mentally crippled this team instead of being one of the best games we've seen in awhile. Make sure you get out with the W 100%.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 11:59 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
Remember it took JJ Redick, a 4 year college guy, another 4 years in the NBA just to crack double digit points...
which is why some of us wanted a 19 year Murray over the 22 y/o Hield, if you were going to take time to develop a guy.
Murray is going bonkers in DEN right now the past two games in limited minutes
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I wish we would of taken Murray.
which is why some of us wanted a 19 year Murray over the 22 y/o Hield, if you were going to take time to develop a guy.
Murray is going bonkers in DEN right now the past two games in limited minutes
Posted on 11/23/16 at 2:38 am to GynoSandberg
buddy looked horrendous when he did get in
two straight blow bys to rim by his man and he looks tentative on offense
not sure what's going on but usually rookies can be scared but still count on athleticism to get something good to happen
I watched the 2nd half of that Denver game
Murray looks smooth and in control
two straight blow bys to rim by his man and he looks tentative on offense
not sure what's going on but usually rookies can be scared but still count on athleticism to get something good to happen
I watched the 2nd half of that Denver game
Murray looks smooth and in control
Posted on 11/23/16 at 6:13 am to GynoSandberg
I agree completely I wanted Murray the whole time. He just has something about him that said he would be a star to me. He isn't there yet but people who told me Buddy > Murray aren't talking shite anymore lol. Plus look how good Kentucky players are in the NBA.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 7:21 am to mckinley1175
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He isn't there yet but people who told me Buddy > Murray aren't talking shite anymore lol
I wanted Murray as well at the time of the draft, but I'm fully on board with Buddy. To make a statement like this, as if it's already a given that Murray will have the better career after 15 games, is premature.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 7:32 am to mckinley1175
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people who told me Buddy > Murray aren't talking shite anymore lol
You didn't say shite about it then. This is the first time you've ever posted on this board, noob.
Posted on 11/23/16 at 7:40 am to Santa Clause
Exactly took the words out of my mouth. This kid will come around,it took J.J. Reddick at least for years to develope into the player he is today.Buddy is a lot more athletic than JJ.It also took him a few years to dominate college. Imo the light didn't come on until his Jr season when they upset Kansas the year they had Wiggins.So give it time fellas!
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