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re: ESPN 5on5 on best and worst offseasons

Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:30 pm to
Not a bad troll though

A for effort
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:40 pm to
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Having better point, assist, steal numbers is "not showing improvement"?



Increasing usage tends to lead to higher totals. But it's ok, ignore the declining fg%, 3 pt%, ft%, TS%, eFG% and win shares.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:53 pm to
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Increasing usage tends to lead to higher totals. But it's ok, ignore the declining fg%, 3 pt%, ft%, TS%, eFG% and win shares.


You're a rockets fan, right? You must really hate a declining Howard then.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72049 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:55 pm to
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Increasing usage tends to lead to higher totals. But it's ok, ignore the declining fg%, 3 pt%, ft%, TS%, eFG% and win shares.


He's pratically Greivis Vasquez!!!!1111
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:57 pm to
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You're a rockets fan, right? You must really hate a declining Howard then.


There's quite a big difference from not improving much since entering the league and declining after a MVP caliber year.
Posted by ThePistol
Lafayette, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1529 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:06 pm to
No difference between a 27 year old who has had major back surgery and a 23 year old who just made his first All-Star game...
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:14 pm to
Just ignore his 2nd lowest FT % and his WS, PER, and Reb % reverting back to his rookie year. Declining.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19440 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:16 pm to
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But it's ok, ignore the declining
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fg%
By .1%? lol

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3 pt%
By 1.2%? lol

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ft%
a significant drop there, 3%...lol

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TS%
exact same as last year, 49.6%

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eFG% and win shares
These two have declined, fair enough

So your argument is that his points and everything going up is that he had more minutes/responsibility on a worse team where he was the only good player and that should be ignored, but his efficiency went down because he sucks, not because he asked to do more?

holy logic bomb

Again, it was a solid troll but lets not try to dig too deep here
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:21 pm to
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So your argument is that his points and everything going up is that he had more minutes/responsibility on a worse team where he was the only good player and that should be ignored, but his efficiency went down because he sucks, not because he asked to do more?

Don't forgot about Doug Collin's shite offense.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:26 pm to
James Harden also had significant drops in FG and 3 point percentage from last year to this year. As for win shares, don't forget his team was terrible and hit the the 3rd year under Doug Collins wall
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:27 pm to
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James Harden also had significant drops in FG and 3 point percentage from last year to this year.
Declining.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 5:20 pm to
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People think Noel could be a franchise player?. It seems that consensus was his ceiling was basically an all-star.


There are 30 teams and 15 All Stars per team. Franchise player aka face of the franchise doesn't mean super star. All teams have a franchise player.
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 5:21 pm
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