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re: Derek favors good or terrible?
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:27 pm to VOR
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:27 pm to VOR
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The Pelicans five-man unit of Jrue - Lonzo - Ingram - Zion - Favors is SECOND in the NBA in net-rating among groups playing 100 minutes or more (21.1).
ORtg: 115.9
DRtg: 94.8 LINK
LINK
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Favors makes the biggest impact for this team (outside of Zion) by far. His overall impact doesn't always read on a box score but nearly every metric we have supports that the team does better when he is on the floor.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 3:57 pm
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:48 pm to Soggymoss
There's a lot of stuff that isn't optimal with Favors in theory, but I think Zion is so good he turns a lot of those theories on their heads. Favors may not create space for Zion but Zion still has enough space to operate and Favors' rebounding still helps convert Zion shots into scores. On the defensive side, Favors is probably much better at defense than any stretch 5 that isn't star level would be.
It's not that Favors is a great fit, it's that with Zion he doesn't have to be. I can't imagine playing Melli 30 MPG for instance even though he's the player type most people see as ideal next to Zion. I think we need to get used to the idea of Zion + Bigs by Committee.
It's not that Favors is a great fit, it's that with Zion he doesn't have to be. I can't imagine playing Melli 30 MPG for instance even though he's the player type most people see as ideal next to Zion. I think we need to get used to the idea of Zion + Bigs by Committee.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:51 pm to ramczykisbest
I prefer Drummond
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:54 pm to TigerinATL
You don’t pay bigs 7 figures a year to play less than 25mpg period. Especially when the fit is questionable at best.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:57 pm to TigerinATL
The thing is even before Zion hit the court, the advanced metrics show Favors as a + player
Posted on 2/23/20 at 8:38 pm to Jester
Right. No way hayes will.
You need some veteran presence
You need some veteran presence
Posted on 2/23/20 at 8:48 pm to Chalkywhite84
trade him for a younger and bigger bodied center
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:10 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:
I think Whiteside is also up for free agency this year. If money or contracts were about equal, would y’all prefer him or Favors?
Yes.
But money won’t be nearly equal.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:05 pm to ramczykisbest
Can we just rename the board to "Pelicans Buckets Talk" or something stupid enough to show how undervalued defense is by this board?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:19 pm to Kennerkarl
Whiteside takes alot of plays off
We don't want him on this team
We don't want him on this team
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:26 pm to ramchallenge
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trade him for a younger and bigger bodied center
Who?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:39 pm to Jester
The only other center I would take right now (that's feasible for this team with our assets of course) is Turner.
Favors knows how to play with Zion and how to pretty much stay out of his way and let him work. Too many other bigs will worry about their stats and want to camp in the paint to hopefully get cheap buckets.
Favors knows how to play with Zion and how to pretty much stay out of his way and let him work. Too many other bigs will worry about their stats and want to camp in the paint to hopefully get cheap buckets.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:43 pm to VOR
Zion = center
With 6/6 3 ball shooting Melli as his PF
They might be the ticket. Why do we need a lumbering center anyway? Isn’t Houston showing they are going extinct anyway?
With 6/6 3 ball shooting Melli as his PF
They might be the ticket. Why do we need a lumbering center anyway? Isn’t Houston showing they are going extinct anyway?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:18 pm to Dogstar
When Favors is in with Zion, he allows Z to leak out on the break bc he is so good on the glass.
Favors might not be great match on paper but Favors is a nice match for Zion in reality
Favors might not be great match on paper but Favors is a nice match for Zion in reality
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:26 pm to STEVED00
quote:is it really because it favors or is it because of guys like Hart and Zo who are very capable of grabbing boards.
When Favors is in with Zion, he allows Z to leak out on the break bc he is so good on the glass.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:30 pm to Macintosh504
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is it really because it favors or is it because of guys like Hart and Zo who are very capable of grabbing boards.
I think both. Favors also protects the rim at which seems a high level as well also require Zion to cover that part.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:35 pm to Macintosh504
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is it really because it favors or is it because of guys like Hart and Zo who are very capable of grabbing boards.
Using 2 man lineup data the highest Reb% with Zion is Zion/Favors at 58.3%.
Zion/Hart is surprisingly low on the list, 6th at 53.9%
LINK
Posted on 2/24/20 at 6:51 pm to TigerinATL
And Frank and Zion are second lol.
I know its a small sample size.
I know its a small sample size.
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