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Advocate Article: Alvin Gentry, guard Tyreke Evans trying to get on same page

Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:06 am
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:06 am
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To get his offense moving forward, Alvin Gentry is taking a look back.

The Pelicans coach has spent some time lately studying guard Tyreke Evans and what worked last season under former coach Monty Williams. At Thursday’s practice, Gentry installed some plays that will look familiar to the Pelicans, offensive sets similar to ones they ran last season with Evans.

“I’ve done it anywhere I’ve been,” Gentry said. “We did it at Golden State last year. Some of the stuff that they ran that was very successful (the previous season), we kept. We’ve done it at Phoenix. Here it’s no different. There are some plays that they ran (that) were very effective plays. As a coach, I think you owe it to the guys that if you see something like that, you can put it on the play-call sheet.”


This is something I've been screaming for. We'll see.

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On Thursday, Evans said he and Gentry are on the same page, and he shifted his critique of Monday’s performance, saying that his biggest issue with passes early in the shot clock is that it led not to the ball movement that the Pelicans want, but to quick shots that weren’t necessarily New Orleans’ best option.

“I just thought last game we did a lot of one-pass shots, and that’s what kind of got us off a rhythm,” Evans said. “We’re trying to play defense for 24 seconds and then we come down and do one pass and then a shot. That’s not making the defense work. We’ve just got to do a better job with that.”

Gentry’s offense is predicated on taking the first good shot available.

“If it’s an open shot, take it,” Evans said.


This section seems like a direct contradiction onto itself. Evans thinks the early shots without working offense was a problem. It makes it seem like Evans is just trying to say the right things here, but doesn't really understand that what he's saying makes no sense.

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His legs “just feel heavy,” Evans said.

“I feel like I’m in training camp,” he said. “Basically this is like training camp.”

In some ways, that’s true mentally as well. Though Evans had time in training camp to learn Gentry’s offense, he’s only now trying to master it in games, and that will take some time.

“It’s kind of like I’m hesitating right now, just trying to find that rhythm,” Evans said. “I still got to be aggressive at the end of the day. Tomorrow I’m going to be aggressive from the rip.”
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17484 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:09 am to
translation: "My ball movement offense does not work with a hero ball/ low IQ ISO king running the show"
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61520 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:11 am to
His penetration definitely looked off against Boston.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34329 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:16 am to
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His penetration definitely looked off against Boston.



I never quite understood why so many people were giddy about Evans running Gentry's system. Seems like oil and water. In reality, Monty probably ran the ideal system for Tyreke, as maddening as it was at times.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35354 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:13 am to
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This section seems like a direct contradiction onto itself. Evans thinks the early shots without working offense was a problem. It makes it seem like Evans is just trying to say the right things here, but doesn't really understand that what he's saying makes no sense.



Not necessarily imo. Sure a one pass shot is a great shot if the guy receiving the pass is wide open, but that's fairly rare. Evans is probably saying we're passing once and then the receiver just tries to make something happen, which I've seen a lot of.

I seriously doubt Gentry would rather take a good shot with 19 seconds on the shot clock when you could take a great shot with 16 or 17 on the shot clock.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8245 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:39 am to
Things are rough in NOLA, but the best thing about Gentry so far is his willingness to adapt. Monty had a "system" and that was it. He wasn't going to rely on analytics or make any changes. AG has been consistently re-tooling.

The product has been garbage, but I appreciate the open minded approach.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25633 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:20 am to
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The Pelicans coach has spent some time lately studying guard Tyreke Evans and what worked last season under former coach Monty Williams. At Thursday’s practice, Gentry installed some plays that will look familiar to the Pelicans, offensive sets similar to ones they ran last season with Evans.


so why we got rid of Monty?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61520 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:33 am to
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The product has been garbage, but I appreciate the open minded approach.


Yeah, earlier this week he said he's "flip flopping" on his decision to stick with a starting unit for 8-10 games. I have no idea who he's referring to, but I know TBW has been beating the drum about how good the numbers have been with Ajinca starting next to AD.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34329 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 10:39 am to
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I know TBW has been beating the drum about how good the numbers have been with Ajinca starting next to AD.




I haven't seen that, but pairing AD with Ajinca and Anderson with Asik seems to make a lot of sense. Asik can make up for Anderson's defensive limitations, and his boxing out should help Anderson crashing the glass while Anderson's spacing/creation should help offset Asik's obvious offensive limitations.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61520 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 11:18 am to
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Alvin Gentry wants to play big to begin the first and third quarters but has no expectation of actually staying big throughout the remainder of the game. Anthony Davis and Ryan Anderson are simply too good compared to the alternatives on the bench. Gentry should take a hard look at how Alexis Ajinca and Anthony Davis have performed together over the last two seasons, because the results are ridiculous.



That's just mauling the competition. Resistance to Ajinca starting, and I have certainly led the cause, focuses on his inability to avoid fouling. Starting last Tuesday he lived up to that reputation racking up four personal fouls in just 13 minutes of action. If Gentry wanted a center to play 25 or 30 minutes a night that would be a serious problem. Gentry doesn't. Neither Ajinca or Omer Asik have played more than 25 minutes in a single game all season long.

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Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 11:29 am to
Tyreke's quote about making smart, effective passes in an effort to get the open shot is much better than the BS he said after the last game
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:45 am to
They can't play Gee/Asik together any more. Ajinca has to start for the spacing alone, fouls or not.

It's not that Gee is demonstrably worse on offense than Aminu was here; its that the league is smarter about cheating off those guys than it was 3 years ago.

It is incredibly difficult to get Davis the ball w/ Dudley fronting him and Gortat/Gee's man zoning Davis up.
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