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Zeppelin lawsuit over Stairway to Heaven
Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:52 pm
Listed to this recording from the band Spirit of their song 'Taurus', which coincidentally they performed at the same venue as Led Zeppelin on the same day at least three times between 1968 and 1970 and at a 1969 festival on different days.
YouTube - Spirit's "Taurus" comparison to Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"
Zeppelin lawsuit article
So? Would you find for Zep or for the Plaintiff?
Sorry - missed the previous post from back earlier this year.
YouTube - Spirit's "Taurus" comparison to Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"
Zeppelin lawsuit article
So? Would you find for Zep or for the Plaintiff?
Sorry - missed the previous post from back earlier this year.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 7:03 pm
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 6:52 pm to HubbaBubba
pretty good band.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:11 pm to HubbaBubba
It's a silly lawsuit and should have been thrown out of court.
The songs are both based on musical progression that has been around for hundreds of years in folk music.It's really pretty basic stuff.Same as with almost all of popular music,nothing is really new musically,it's all been done before.
If they had copied lyrics,I would feel differently about it.
The songs are both based on musical progression that has been around for hundreds of years in folk music.It's really pretty basic stuff.Same as with almost all of popular music,nothing is really new musically,it's all been done before.
If they had copied lyrics,I would feel differently about it.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:17 pm to HubbaBubba
Zeppelins was better and not the exact same
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:25 pm to Sneaky__Sally
It needed a steel guitar in it though. I swear that would've sounded great.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 7:44 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:LINK
Led Zeppelin
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:01 pm to HubbaBubba
I would tell Spirit to go fade back into the obscurity from whence they came. And to never sully the name of the great Led Zeppelin again.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:38 pm to genuineLSUtiger
If that Robin Thicke douche can lose for his song to Marvin Gaye's family, Zepplin can lose.
For the record I think both cases are horseshite.
People use stuff all the time. Progressions it was called.
The Doors "Five to One" has a solo guitar stretch that is used many times over decades. I really notice it in some Pearl jam songs. Black. And some live versions of Evenflow it is used or very similar.
For the record I think both cases are horseshite.
People use stuff all the time. Progressions it was called.
The Doors "Five to One" has a solo guitar stretch that is used many times over decades. I really notice it in some Pearl jam songs. Black. And some live versions of Evenflow it is used or very similar.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:44 pm to auggie
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The songs are both based on musical progression that has been around for hundreds of years in folk music.It's really pretty basic stuff.
Come on man, that's stupid. There's often a lot more to a song than the chords they are playing. The style and transitions are the same, so much so that when you hear it you think you are hearing an iconic Zeppelin song. It's obviously a rip-off. Id venture to say they ripped off some of the classical pieces as well, including Bach but ripping off classical music is basically "being inspired by" it anyway. It's public domain. In this case it's no coincidence that the two bands played together.
There are 100's of songs with the same chord progression. Can you name others that people would think was Stairway to Heaven upon hearing it? Sure, there are some that are very similar (bach, rolling stones, eric clapton, and even Hotel California) but you don't really mistake one for the other. There have been many before us who have stumbled across basically the same sound but none have put it on a record that I know of.
Even the name pays homage to what they ripped off. Spirit --> Stairway to Heaven.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:51 pm to HubbaBubba
What was Spirit doing for the last 45 years? I feel like there should be some sort of time frame in which to file suit.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:55 pm to LSU alum wannabe
that shite sounded like an actual drum sample. These two are just progressions.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 11:09 pm to Asgard Device
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The style and transitions are the same, so much so that when you hear it you think you are hearing an iconic Zeppelin song.
I hear something that is very, very distantly reminiscent of Stairway but is trivial and instantly forgettable. Move along, nothing to see here. Fogerty came 100x closer to plagiarizing himself, yet he won, and this case is an insult to the artists Zeppelin actually did rip off. Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:17 am to Asgard Device
If you never borrow or steal,I want to hear some of your stuff..I love to borrow new stuff.
Man, you keep doing what you do, if somebody borrows or copies it, take it as a compliment. That only applies to music. Lyrics are a different matter.
Somebody using basic chords,progressions etc...and they think somebody stole some genius shite from them? Easy to see why they didn't get much further,and have to resort to a lawsuit.
I have this one song,worked on it for 30 years,It is My Masterpiece,it is really good and one day it will make it's mark.
Anyhow,the song is full of hooks. One day at a publisher, there is another guy there,pitching his stuff too,and happened to hear this song.
He approached me later,and asked about about 1 line I had from the song. I was proud of the line,and I knew it was good when I wrote it,but he thought it was a great hook for an entire song.
He asked me if we could write something together,based on that 1 line.
I told him " I really don't think there is enough meat there for an entire song" I don't care if you use it though.
He did it though,it did pretty well for him..I have to laugh at myself everytime I hear it.It can only make me try harder.
Man, you keep doing what you do, if somebody borrows or copies it, take it as a compliment. That only applies to music. Lyrics are a different matter.
Somebody using basic chords,progressions etc...and they think somebody stole some genius shite from them? Easy to see why they didn't get much further,and have to resort to a lawsuit.
I have this one song,worked on it for 30 years,It is My Masterpiece,it is really good and one day it will make it's mark.
Anyhow,the song is full of hooks. One day at a publisher, there is another guy there,pitching his stuff too,and happened to hear this song.
He approached me later,and asked about about 1 line I had from the song. I was proud of the line,and I knew it was good when I wrote it,but he thought it was a great hook for an entire song.
He asked me if we could write something together,based on that 1 line.
I told him " I really don't think there is enough meat there for an entire song" I don't care if you use it though.
He did it though,it did pretty well for him..I have to laugh at myself everytime I hear it.It can only make me try harder.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 12:43 am
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:53 am to HubbaBubba
Didnt't listen nor read your claim.
But Zep has been accused of this stuff non-stop since the 70's and nothing stuck so these guys are probably out of luck.
But Zep has been accused of this stuff non-stop since the 70's and nothing stuck so these guys are probably out of luck.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 1:10 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Many of the cases have been settled by changing the songwriter credits (and presumably paying the ripoff victim some back royalties)
Zep has been accused of this stuff non-stop since the 70's and nothing stuck
LINK
Posted on 5/19/16 at 6:37 am to HubbaBubba
we landed on the moon!
Posted on 5/19/16 at 7:19 am to monsterballads
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we landed on the moon!
Some will argue.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 7:35 am to Kafka
LZ ripped off many bands on their rise to the top. they've admitted so.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 7:52 am to monsterballads
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery or so they say. These other bands should be honored.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:39 am to monsterballads
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LZ ripped off many bands on their rise to the top. they've admitted so.
So did the Stones. Keefe talks about in quite a bit in his book.
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