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Van Morrison - Paging Kafka

Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:21 pm
Loved Moondance and Into the Mystic. Never cared for Brown Eyed Girl or Wild Night is Calling, however I'm interested in listening to some similar material by other artist. Who would be a contemporary of his that I could check out?

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:39 pm to
Wilco
Kopecky Family Band
Minos the Saint
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:55 pm to
Well first listen to Van's Astral Weeks if you haven't already

There's no one exactly like VM. For blues/folk influences, check out Ry Cooder. Also The Band. If you like that look into Doug Sahm. For British Folk try Fairport Convention, Sandy Denny, Bert Jansch and Pentangle, Traffic's John Barleycorn Must Die.

For artsong-type stuff listen to Love's Forever Changes. And maybe The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society. Maybe the first Blood Sweat & Tears album, Child Is Father to The Man (w/Al Kooper) -- NOT the later hits w/Clayton-Thomas on vocals. Also The Notorious Byrd Brothers.

Of course you can always try Dylan: Blonde on Blonde, John Wesley Harding, The Basement Tapes w/The Band, among other things.

That's off the top of my head, maybe I'll think of some more later.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12358 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Wilco


No.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:57 pm to
Might try John Martyn

His Couldn't Love You More (LP) is where he's closer sounding to a wooden/acoustic Morrison vibe. LINK
and the album "The Apprentice" is definitely more jazz flavored with polished voicing(s). LINK or live

My personal fav: May You Never (...which EC covered)... Although as said above he's not going to be the same vocally

ETA: Forgot this one: Cooltide
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:01 pm to
Further on with VM, his bluesy stuff is top notch.

There looks to be an American compilation which entails some of it, called TB Sheets:

TB Sheets
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27004 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

There's no one exactly like VM. For blues/folk influences, check out Ry Cooder. Also The Band. If you like that look into Doug Sahm. For British Folk try Fairport Convention, Sandy Denny, Bert Jansch and Pentangle, Traffic's John Barleycorn Must Die.



That's how strange/unique Van Morrison is. I have literally never heard of anybody you list except The Band.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19487 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:39 pm to
I really dig the Band. Levon was one of my favorite vocalist and now thinking about it I just never drew the similarities between the two but they're definitely there. Good information, especially on some of British stuff.
Posted by sherrifftaylor
SELP
Member since Jul 2012
878 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 9:40 pm to
"Too long in exile" is a great album. So is "Avalon sunset".

"These are the days" may be the best song I've ever heard.

Hope you enjoy!
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

quote:

There's no one exactly like VM. For blues/folk influences, check out Ry Cooder. Also The Band. If you like that look into Doug Sahm. For British Folk try Fairport Convention, Sandy Denny, Bert Jansch and Pentangle, Traffic's John Barleycorn Must Die.
That's how strange/unique Van Morrison is. I have literally never heard of anybody you list except The Band
I realy don't know that much about the British folk movement. The previously mentioned John Martyn is unknown to me aside from his name.

Fairport Convention was the outstanding UK folk rock group, w/ female vocalist Sandy Denny and guitarist Richard Thompson (who I forgot to mention in my original post)

Fairport Convention ~ "Meet On The Ledge"

Fairport Convention - "Who knows where the time goes"

Pentangle - "Once I had a sweetheart" -- cover of an old British folk song, as is:

Traffic - "John Barleycorn Must Die"
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

I really dig the Band. Levon was one of my favorite vocalist and now thinking about it I just never drew the similarities between the two but they're definitely there.
A couple of US acts I forgot to mention:

Mother Earth (w/ Tracy Nelson) - "Down So Low"

Kaleidoscope - "Greenwood Sidee"

Kaleidoscope - "Taxim"
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11427 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

Doug Sahm



...a favorite of mine
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11427 posts
Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:11 pm to
This album is fantastic...





Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

quote:

Doug Sahm
a favorite of mine
Doug interviewed by... Hugh Hefner?!

Features the SDQ (w/Augie Meyers) doing "Mendocino"

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 11:23 pm to
Those coming from a Van M perspective might want to start here:

Sir Douglas Quintet - "At the Crossroads"
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:37 am to
I'm glad to see so many Doug Sahm fans here.

I was walking through the neighborhood one night a couple months ago and heard some old Doug or Texas Tornados blasting from inside a house. I was half hoping they'd come outside so I could compliment them on their taste.
Posted by tigertrueAU
Canyon Lake Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1251 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:58 am to
Like someone said before first jump head first into Astral weeks. This I believe is ranked 16th or 17th on Rolling Stones top 500 albums of all time.
Have you ever listened to JJ Cale? he's the father of Tulsa blues/folk rock. He has his own style of lullabies.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Well first listen to Van's Astral Weeks if you haven't already
And St Dominic's Preview

Basically, listen to everything from '67 to '73. Skip over the popular songs
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142023 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

listen to everything from '67 to '73
T.B. Sheets
Astral Weeks
Moondance
His Band and Street Choir
Tupelo Honey
St. Domic's Preview
It's Too Late To Stop Now
Veedon Fleece

You can skip Hard Nose The Highway
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22907 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:34 pm to
Check out Van when he was with the band "Them."
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