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Neil Young's 1970 hit single "Southern Man"
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:45 pm
As southern folk, how do you feel about this song?
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:48 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
No problem. It is what it is
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:49 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
Not triggered.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:55 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
Great song. Phenomenal album.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 12:55 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
It's a lot better than Sweet Home Alabama
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:06 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
anyone bothered by it is an idiot
good song
good song
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:07 pm to VOR
Absolutely agree with your assessment. No point in getting hung up over it.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:15 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
Love the music and guitar solo.
As far as the message, I have no issue with it. He was just speaking out on the problems from the past and present in the South.
As far as the message, I have no issue with it. He was just speaking out on the problems from the past and present in the South.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:17 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
Well I heard mister Young sing about her.
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down.
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember.
A Southern man don't need him around, anyhow.
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down.
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember.
A Southern man don't need him around, anyhow.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:35 pm to Ace Midnight
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Well I heard mister Young sing about her.
Well, I heard ole Neil put her down.
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember.
A Southern man don't need him around, anyhow.
Amen brotha. Screw Neil Young. Yankee son of a bitch.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:35 pm to Melvin
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It's a lot better than Sweet Home Alabama
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:40 pm to Ace Midnight
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A Southern man don't need him around, anyhow.
In other words, we'll treat blacks the way we want no matter what the constitution and basic human dignity says.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:45 pm to Zappas Stache
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In other words, we'll treat blacks the way we want no matter what the constitution and basic human dignity says.
I don't think that was the point of the rebuke. The North benefitted as much or more from the institution, and they were just as racist during the time between Reconstruction and the 1960s civil rights movement.
Scapegoat us all you want, but this happened in Boston, baw:
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:46 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
Harvest is one of the best albums of all time. Neil Young is one of the greatest songwriters of all time, paved the way for artists like Bruce Springsteen and Tom Petty, and was able to produce hits spanning 4 decades.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:46 pm to RegisteredPharmacist
IIRC, Young and Skynyrd were actually pretty close. I think their response to southern man was pretty togue-in-cheek.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 1:57 pm to MoonrakerElite
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IIRC, Young and Skynyrd were actually pretty close.
Meh. It was nothing personal, though. Van Zant insisted they take out the echoing lines, so as not to offend. Kooper only left the first one "Southern man, better keep your head" - which is still at a low level on the left channel.
Young (not a Yankee, but a Canadian, BTW) took it to heart and ultimately concluded he was wrong (and implicitly, Skynyrd was right):
"My own song 'Alabama' richly deserved the shot Lynyrd Skynyrd gave me with their great record. I don't like my words when I listen to it. They are accusatory and condescending, not fully thought out, and too easy to misconstrue."
Skynyrd was clearly responding to both "Alabama" and "Southern Man" in their lyrics.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 2:22 pm to Ace Midnight
I've always found "Southern Man" to be rather silly. It sounds almost like a parody of Hollywood liberalism ("I've seen your black man comin' round...")
FWIW, Young supposedly wrote "Powderfinger" for LS, but they died before they could record it.
The Beat Farmers classic cover of "Powderfinger"
FWIW, Young supposedly wrote "Powderfinger" for LS, but they died before they could record it.
The Beat Farmers classic cover of "Powderfinger"
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:45 pm to Ace Midnight
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and they were just as racist during the time between Reconstruction and the 1960s civil rights movement.
It's fair to say that the north was incredibly racist as well (with Chicago perhaps being the worst of all), but it is not fair to say it was "just as racist". Let's not act like the south wasn't ground zero for most of the horror show.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:09 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Let's not act like the south wasn't ground zero for most of the horror show.
When virtually all black folks lived in the South? Sure. As they moved north? Revisionist history at best. Again, just like in the antebellum period, Yankees act like they had gleaned no benefit from slavery. They were 100% fed by slavery and relied heavily on southern products such as cotton for their industry. It's a fact that is rarely admitted, but it doesn't make it less so.
Hell, a northern textile worker in 1855 was more dependent on slavery, than a poor southern dirt farmer working his own 40 with his sons and no slaves. But, let's keep up this pretense that Southern white folks (rather than the love of money as the Bible tells us) are the root of all evil.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:25 pm to Ace Midnight
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I don't think that was the point of the rebuke. The North benefitted as much or more from the institution, and they were just as racist during the time between Reconstruction and the 1960s civil rights movement. Scapegoat us all you want, but this happened in Boston, baw:
Randy Newman "Rednecks"
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