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re: My take on the band Phish
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:02 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:02 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
quote:frick that
the show didn't end until 7:45 am
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 6:14 am to CaptainPanic
so almost as long as a 311 concert
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:12 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
quote:In case anybody was still wondering:
Phish has 118 different songs played in 13 shows this year. What does WSP have?
In 19 shows, WSP played 182 different songs and a song never more than 4 times. 18 songs were played 4 times
Phish songs played 4 or more times in 14 shows (not including JF):
Backwards Down The Number Line (4)
Bathtub Gin (4)
Birds of a Feather (4)
Cavern (4)
Chalk Dust Torture (4)
Character Zero (4)
Devotion to a Dream (5)
Down With Disease (4)
Fuego (7)
Ghost (5)
Halfway to the Moon (4)
Harry Hood (4)
Mike's Song (4)
Moma Dance (4)
Possum (4)
Sparkle (4)
The Line (5)
Tweezer (4)
Tweezer Reprise (4)
Twist (4)
Run Like An Antelope (5)
The Wedge (4)
Waiting All Night (5)
Weekapaug Groove (4)
Wingsuit (6)
Winterqueen (4)
Wolfman's Brother (4)
Yarmouth Road (4)
46 Days (5)
555 (6)
Obviously most of those are off Fuego which is reasonable because they are trying to make more money off of their album.
Also, 11 of the Phish shows were during a multi-day run so they can not play a song they have already played during the run.
Not picking a side to the argument. I just wanted to throw some stats out there
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:14 pm to CaptainPanic
quote:Ouch
Devotion to a Dream (5)
Fuego (7)
Ghost (5)
The Line (5)
Run Like An Antelope (5)
Waiting All Night (5)
Wingsuit (6)
46 Days (5)
555 (6)
Most of those songs blow
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:16 pm to danman6336
Not that it needs repeating but tDB>wps
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:19 pm to danman6336
*edited
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:39 pm to CaptainPanic
Thanks for finally answering that.
So WSP has played more songs by a slim margin. Whoopty doo. And by comparing the jams of each respective tour, we can conclude that the answer to
is Yes.
So WSP has played more songs by a slim margin. Whoopty doo. And by comparing the jams of each respective tour, we can conclude that the answer to
quote:
My question is, does more unique jamming trump a wider song range?
is Yes.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:04 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
Again, we're talking about the variety of 4 minute songs played at a jam band show
Who cares?
It's about the jahmz breh
Who cares?
It's about the jahmz breh
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:12 pm to danman6336
Phish's setlists selections get stale fast.
They need to mix it up more.
I really enjoy their playing this tour but forcing feugo on us sucks.
They need to mix it up more.
I really enjoy their playing this tour but forcing feugo on us sucks.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:29 pm to BooneTrails
quote:This.
They need to mix it up more.
I agree with you Dan, it is all about the jams but it is refreshing to hear new jams off of different songs instead of minor variations to the same jams for each jam vehicle.
Their song placement has been very odd this tour. No denying that
edit: Also, there isn't much time differentiation between Phish and WSP regarding how much time they spend of a song. Ultimately it comes down to a matter of 30 seconds each song, if that.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:38 pm to CaptainPanic
This is what I was trying to say... I'm not saying one is better than the other, but does WSP get any respect for playing a bigger variety of songs?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:39 pm to StickyFingaz
quote:no.
does WSP get any respect
Any question asked regarding any jam band will ultimately been seen by phanners as a Phish vs. (insert jam band name here). There isn't any hope. Just give up, groove on, and WSMFP.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:41 pm to CaptainPanic
quote:
o, there isn't much time differentiation between Phish and WSP regarding how much time they spend of a song. Ultimately it comes down to a matter of 30 seconds each song, if that.
What?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:42 pm to CaptainPanic
quote:
Just give up, groove on, and WSMFP.
I have conceded this long ago
Posted on 7/21/14 at 6:00 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
It has been stated that WSP only plays 4 minute songs while Phish goes on these extended jams. But in reality if you look at the sets, They really don't spend that much more time on a song than WSP.
Plus I've said it once and I'll say it again. length of song =/= good jam
Plus I've said it once and I'll say it again. length of song =/= good jam
Posted on 7/21/14 at 6:05 pm to CaptainPanic
quote:But a jam has to be above about 10-12 minutes to be considered a must-hear jam. Below that, even if it's really good, it's just a "good jam", not a must hear
length of song =/= good jam
And 12 minutes to 20 minutes quality of jam is directly correlated to length.
But quality of jam and length of jam are inversely related beyond about 20 minutes, outside of some outliers. Those outliers are legendary type jams usually.
It's science. The Jahmz Theorem.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 6:09 pm to danman6336
quote:I agree with this
But a jam has to be above about 10-12 minutes to be considered a must-hear jam
quote:I disagree with this. Many 20+ jams are considered "legendary" for maybe 5 minutes of that song. Just because a song hits 20 minutes doesn't mean it was a great jam. A lot of the times it is just noodling fillers
And 12 minutes to 20 minutes quality of jam is directly correlated to length.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 6:11 pm to danman6336
quote:Ghost?
Most of those songs blow
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