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My Opinion of Haggrd
Posted on 4/9/16 at 1:51 am
Posted on 4/9/16 at 1:51 am
I'm an old guy. I grew up in the 70s listening to Haggard, Jones, Willie and Waylon. This won't be popular but Merle was very aware of his audience and wrote songs to play to their emotions. It doesn't mean I dont like a lot of his stuff. But a lot of it was pretty contrived. He got away with it under the guise of prison time and train hopping. I'm not sure he wouldn't be bro-ing it up in today's country.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 2:18 am
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:55 am to Zappas Stache
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This won't be popular but Merle was very aware of his audience and wrote songs to play to their emotions.
What does that even mean? He was aware of what his fans liked and wrote songs that they would like? This may be the stupidest fricking post I've ever read. Merle Haggard would be bro country...kill yourself.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:38 am to LSUballs
I don't think its hard to interpret what he is saying, though I believe he may be being a bit harsh on Merle...
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:45 am to TFTC
So you (him) don't think Waylon, Willie and Jones didn't know their audience and write songs to play on thier emotions? Or Taylor Swift or Woodie Guthrie or Easy E? I don't get what he is saying at all. Then he throws in Merle would be bro country so I assume Zappa was drunk and trolling. He deserves to be cursed at.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:45 am to Zappas Stache
what the frick are you smoking?Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:28 am to Uncle JackD
I think you have people who make music for themselves and whether people like it or not, is up to them... I also think you have people who make music to be played on the radio, that very little integrity... there's a lot in between, too... not saying either way is right or wrong..
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:34 am to LSUballs
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Woodie Guthrie
No, I most definitely think he didn't write songs for a specific "audience"
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:46 am to TFTC
He had "this machine kills fascists" written on his guitar. Sure he had an audience in mind. But regardless, I can lambast Zappa for desecrating the The Hag all I want. The man is not even in the ground yet. Plus his brother covered Gin and Juice... He's way more bro than The Hag.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:07 am to Zappas Stache
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:43 am to Zappas Stache
So, did Merle smoke marijuana when he wasn't in Muskogee?
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:58 am to High C
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So, did Merle smoke marijuana when he wasn't in Muskogee?
IDK, but he certainly didn't get his kicks on LSD.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 11:20 am to LSUballs
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He had "this machine kills fascists" written on his guitar
Exactly, do you really think he did that as an "act," to cater to an audience? No, thats who he was and if people enjoyed it, great...
Im not saying he didn't have a message...
edit: I don't think he thought... hmmm, what can I do to appeal to the socialist crowd...
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/9/16 at 12:24 pm to Zappas Stache
This just sounds like nitpicking and looking for reasons NOT to enjoy Merle Haggard. I just disagree entirely.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 1:04 pm to Zappas Stache
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under the guise of prison time and train hopping.
I think you missed the point, real country was about being in prison and train hopping symbolized a nomadic, transient lifestyle. MH nailed that because he lived that life.
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I'm not sure he wouldn't be bro-ing it up in today's country.
Wow, when you are wrong you go all in, MH is the polar opposite of the shite passing for country today.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 4:21 pm to High C
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So, did Merle smoke marijuana when he wasn't in Muskogee?
Yes. A Rolling Stone profile of him a few years ago talked about the reporter riding with Merle in his golfcart around his property. He stopped at a nice area to fire up a pipe of weed.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 5:47 pm to TFTC
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dit: I don't think he thought... hmmm, what can I do to appeal to the socialist crowd...
He thought, "hmm, how can I sell socialism to extremely poor illiterate migrant workers from the dust bowl, while also making the struggle seem personal for college aged Bohemians from affluent families". Maybe his goal would be better described as trying to influence rather than appeal but his songs were definitely written with particular listeners in mind.
And he did it to such an effective degree that his influence still runs deep in the American consciousness.
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 4/9/16 at 7:23 pm to Zappas Stache
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I'm not sure he wouldn't be bro-ing it up in today's country.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:48 pm to Zappas Stache
What a stupid a$$ thread. Clueless....
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:43 pm to Zappas Stache
He would be the Montgomery guy in Montgomery Gentry. I think you are right Zappa. He would be a Bro Country hero today. These guys aren't understanding the essence of your post.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 8:44 am to shinerfan
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He thought, "hmm, how can I sell socialism to extremely poor illiterate migrant workers from the dust bowl, while also making the struggle seem personal for college aged Bohemians from affluent families". Maybe his goal would be better described as trying to influence rather than appeal but his songs were definitely written with particular listeners in mind.
I disagree... I believe he had a message, but didn't think about appealing to an audience... thats just silly...
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