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re: Live versions of songs that (to you) are better than the album version
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:07 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:07 pm to CottonWasKing
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A musician isn't worth a damn if hes only good when he has the benefit of infinite takes and studio effects.
There have been many studio offerings that were fantastic, and can't be replicated live. It doesn't mean it's an inferior product.
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There have been many studio offerings that were fantastic, and can't be replicated live. It doesn't mean it's an inferior product.
That isn't what the sentence you quoted stated.
The sentence you quoted stated that:
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A musician isn't worth a damn if hes only good when he has the benefit of infinite takes and studio effects.
There is a difference.
The point I was making is not that all studio recordings are inferior. The point is that it is much more impressive to me for a musician to be able to cut the extra fat live and put forth a quality product.
That live product that has been expertly trimmed of fat will always be more enjoyable to me if it is performed by talented and capable musicians.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That was just one of example of musicians "worth their salt" that could record a better product in studio than on a live stage... There are many more...
Not to mention, although I could my wrong since its not my cup of tea, I doubt that "live" record is actually live... I'm sure there was something done to the recording, in a studio, to alter what you hear...
Not to mention, although I could my wrong since its not my cup of tea, I doubt that "live" record is actually live... I'm sure there was something done to the recording, in a studio, to alter what you hear...
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:14 pm to TFTC
For the record, I think the live experience can be just as powerful, albeit different...
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:14 pm to TFTC
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That was just one of example of musicians "worth their salt" that could record a better product in studio than on a live stage... There are many more... Not to mention, although I could my wrong since its not my cup of tea, I doubt that "live" record is actually live... I'm sure there was something done to the recording, in a studio, to alter what you hear...
Other than simple editing to my knowledge there was not.
The music you hear was performed in a live setting.
Refer to my above post for the rest of rebuttal.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:17 pm to CottonWasKing
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First of all: Hate me if you like. Consider this blasphemy if you like but I don't understand the hype over Pet Sounds.
Wow. Seriously? Pet sounds is phenomenal.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:18 pm to CottonWasKing
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The album was produced by Tom Dowd, who condensed the running time of various songs, occasionally even merging two performances into one track. For example, the first seven minutes of "You Don't Love Me" is from the first show on March 12 and the rest (starting at Duane's solo without the band) is from the second show on March 13. At Fillmore East peaked at No. 13 on Billboard's Pop Albums chart.
The album was also specially remixed for four-channel quadraphonic sound. In the four-channel mix Duane Allman is heard in the left rear channel, Dickey Betts in the right rear channel, Jai Johanny Johanson in the front left channel, Butch Trucks in the right front channel, and Gregg Allman and Berry Oakley both centered in the front channels. The four-channel version uses some different edits and performances of the songs taken from the same concerts. Some of these alternate versions appeared in the 1989 compilation Dreams, although in that release the four-channel recordings have been reduced to two-channels. In 1998 the entire four-channel edition was reissued on CD as a 4.0 (not 5.1) surround sound DTS disc.
This is from Wikipedia, so I'll leave it up to you to believe the validity...
Again, I think both forms have their pluses... I have nothing against either, though the older Ive gotten I have a lot less desire to go see music live (mostly due to factors other than the music itself)..
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:22 pm to rutiger
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Wow. Seriously? Pet sounds is phenomenal.
Great album without a doubt. I don't deny that one bit. There are entirely too many claims of it being the greatest of all time imo though.
I love the album I just think its entirely too highly rated.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:23 pm to CottonWasKing
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Great album without a doubt. I don't deny that one bit. There are entirely too many claims of it being the greatest of all time imo though. I love the album I just think its entirely too highly rated.
It gets rated that high because it was completely groundbreaking. Its the american version of sergeant peppers.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:24 pm to TFTC
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This is from Wikipedia, so I'll leave it up to you to believe the validity...
Thats all very true and amounts to simple editing and mixing. At the end of the day that is still Duane Allman on a stage doing his thing and therein lies the magic of that album. That is a magic that has never been recaptured be it in a studio or on a live album imo.
I'll admit I'm biased as hell At Fillmore East is what I consider to be the Greatest album of all time.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:25 pm to CottonWasKing
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I love the album I just think its entirely too highly rated.
I think to a degree, the time it was recorded goes into account when making that claim... The ground it broke. If released today, i agree it wouldnt get quite the fanfare...
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:26 pm to rutiger
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It gets rated that high because it was completely groundbreaking. Its the american version of sergeant peppers.
Its a respectable choice for GOAT just not a choice that I agree with
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:27 pm to TFTC
I hear you, I bet its a great representation of their sound...
but apparently, on that one song... he wasnt his best on the same day, on the same song...
Anyway, cheers... I'm done for...
but apparently, on that one song... he wasnt his best on the same day, on the same song...
Anyway, cheers... I'm done for...
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:29 pm to TFTC
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he wasnt his best on the same day, on the same song...
according to the producers taste. I may have thought the first solo was the best. The truth is none of us know because we've never heard that solo.
What we do know is that it was Duane fricking Allman
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:32 pm to CottonWasKing
Ted Nugent-Wang Dang Sweet Poon tang
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:35 pm to Rickety Cricket
Coming Back To Life - Pink Floyd--Live from Earls Court 1994
This version gives me chills when the bass and drums start.
This version gives me chills when the bass and drums start.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:44 pm to Gnarls Broccoli
Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues performed at Folsom Prison
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:45 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Every song by bands that have musicians in them
Posted on 10/2/12 at 9:56 pm to Gnarls Broccoli
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This version gives me chills when the bass and drums start.
That whole Pulse concert was awesome. Every song is a great live performance.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 10:05 pm to Rickety Cricket
Almost all Motorhead songs are better live IMO.
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