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re: Kendrick Lamar "DAMN." discussion thread
Posted on 4/14/17 at 1:29 pm to Kayhill Brown
Posted on 4/14/17 at 1:29 pm to Kayhill Brown
I am a total Kendrick fanboi, and I definitely think he'll rank up there with the greats when his entire body of work is considered and finished.
That being said, I agree that this album is uneven, but I think that's one reason that Kendrick is so good. He doesn't just spit fire on verse after verse (which is what Joey does, imo). He tries to make interesting artistic statements.
That being said, when Kendrick DOES choose to spit fire (DNA, holy shite), he melts my face.
Ever since GKMC, I'll give an entire Kendrick album a listen quite a few times and really appreciate the artistic statement. Like others have said, though, I usually only have a select few tracks from those albums that keep coming up again and again in my rotation. Too many interludes, distractions and such on a lot of his albums.
That being said, I agree that this album is uneven, but I think that's one reason that Kendrick is so good. He doesn't just spit fire on verse after verse (which is what Joey does, imo). He tries to make interesting artistic statements.
That being said, when Kendrick DOES choose to spit fire (DNA, holy shite), he melts my face.
Ever since GKMC, I'll give an entire Kendrick album a listen quite a few times and really appreciate the artistic statement. Like others have said, though, I usually only have a select few tracks from those albums that keep coming up again and again in my rotation. Too many interludes, distractions and such on a lot of his albums.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 1:31 pm
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Posted on 4/14/17 at 2:08 pm to hogfly
I'm also not sure that a lot of people who critique Kendrick really understand the complexity of his lyricism and vision. This analysis of Duckworth from stereogum is pretty awesome:
quote:
The album’s wonderstruck up-from-nothing narrative and its scattered-but-intense musicality both find their ultimate expression in “DUCKWORTH.,” the song that ends the album. 9th Wonder, the man who helped catalyze an internet explosion of introspective underground rap at the beginning of this century, co-produced the song, and it continually shifts, becoming something new whenever Kendrick’s story changes. And it changes a lot. Kendrick starts out by telling the life story of Anthony “Top Dawg” Tiffith, his label boss. It’s a mythic origin-story tale — a kid growing up in the projects, enduring hard times, willing to do whatever, just evading a murder charge.
But the story doesn’t end with Top Dawg starting his smart-rap empire. Instead, it ends when he heads out to rob the same KFC where Ducky, Kendrick’s own father, worked the drive-thru widow. Things turned out fine. Ducky knew that Anthony was a dangerous person, so he gave him extra biscuits everytime he saw him. Top Dawg liked Ducky, so he “let him slide.” And because they stayed on each other’s good sides, they were able to meet up once again, years later, in recording studios, both of them on the top of the world. But Kendrick doesn’t end the album on that note of triumph. Instead, he focuses on what could’ve happened: “If Anthony killed Ducky, Top Dawg could be serving life / While I grew up without a father and die in a gunfight.” The last thing we hear on the song is a gunshot. It’s an ending that’ll rattle around in your head, a stinging reminder of all the potential Kendricks out there who never had a chance to do great things the way this guy did. And that’s DAMN.: A stark and powerful piece of art that never lets you forget what a miracle it is that you get to hear it at all. That’s what a rap album can do.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 2:17 pm to CocoLoco
quote:
PAB is regarded as one of the greatest rap albums of all time,
Posted on 4/14/17 at 2:19 pm to BCMCubs
I dont get it at all.
He is absolutely terrible. Actually most of this garbage is. How people listen to this......I just dont get it.
He is absolutely terrible. Actually most of this garbage is. How people listen to this......I just dont get it.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 2:20 pm to CaptainPanic
Good Kid shits all over Butterfly
I like both albums but it's not even close. So much filler on Butterfly
I like both albums but it's not even close. So much filler on Butterfly
Posted on 4/14/17 at 2:41 pm to gamatt53
I'm not saying it's THE greatest, but it's one of them
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:07 pm to hogfly
I get it. It's very poetic and he's much brighter than the majority of the artists left in that genre, but just because he's intelligent doesn't just put him in the GOAT conversation.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:16 pm to CaptainPanic
First 3 reviews are all perfect. This is poetic like TPAB, but I can actually jam it like GKMC. This album is so fricking good. Kendrick is for sure one of the best rappers of all time
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:19 pm to dirtbag lsu
So don't listen to it since "most of it" is bad to you. Move along.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 3:55 pm to TD_Hero
quote:
Kendrick is for sure one of the best rappers of all time
He is one of if not the best rappers right now which really isn't saying much because the genre is completely watered down with average to terrible music these days.
Because of that he stands out so much among his current generation peers and this happens
quote:
First 3 reviews are all perfect
because it's better than most everything else coming out right now. But "ALL TIME"? Just no.
5/5 should mean there are some amazing songs and every other song is at least above average. There are some stinkers on this
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/14/17 at 4:02 pm to WestCoastAg
I'm going to go with big Sean
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:18 pm to WestCoastAg
So this is what passes as GOATness these days?
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:45 pm to hogfly
There's rumor that he may be releasing a second album "Nation" this Sunday.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 5:52 pm to BigOrangeVols
There's a thread on that further down. Interesting idea with the Easter metaphor. Lots of talk that DAMN was the UU for the real album that will come out on Sunday.
Would be genius. I think it's likely just fanboys who are a little underwhelmed by this release and are looking for a genius surprise.
Would be genius. I think it's likely just fanboys who are a little underwhelmed by this release and are looking for a genius surprise.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:24 pm to WestCoastAg
Big Kendrick fan, really like DNA, HUMBLE, ELEMENT and a few others. Top to bottom though, this is not even close to his best album imo. Very very good album but not his best to me.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 6:38 pm to rlebl39
HUMBLE is the only song that I like so far. Hoping some others grow on me as I listen more over the next couple days
Posted on 4/14/17 at 10:53 pm to WestCoastAg
LUST. and DNA. :siren emoji: :fire emoji: :siren emoji:
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:38 am to Blue Velvet
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LUST. and DNA.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:53 am to CaptainPanic
I saw he rumor that there's a second album dropping tomorrow
Edit: Sorry fellas, didn't read above. Already been thoroughly discussed
Edit: Sorry fellas, didn't read above. Already been thoroughly discussed
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:15 am to Fus0623
This :
DNA
Is what yall are claiming is a great track from tGOAT rapper?
Seriously, how can yall say he's even in contention for top 10, muchless goat.
Kendrick Lamar cannot hold a candle to:
Biggie
Pac
Ice Cube
Project Pat
Dre
Eminem
Snoop
Ludacris
Mos Def
NAS
DNA
Is what yall are claiming is a great track from tGOAT rapper?
Seriously, how can yall say he's even in contention for top 10, muchless goat.
Kendrick Lamar cannot hold a candle to:
Biggie
Pac
Ice Cube
Project Pat
Dre
Eminem
Snoop
Ludacris
Mos Def
NAS
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