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re: Heroin fueled great music? Another earlier thread got me thinking.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:03 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:03 am to Ace Midnight
Actually, Bob Geldolf sings the verses on the studio version. He played Pink in the movie.
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 5:44 am to JuiceTerry
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Actually, Bob Geldolf sings the verses on the studio version. He played Pink in the movie.
He did play Pink in the film. However, he is not credited with any contribution to any of the music on the album. (Before he became Africa's savior, Geldof was a singer in a band called The Boomtown Rats.)
So, unless you can provide some sort of link for that, I don't believe you.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 5:44 am
Posted on 11/13/15 at 7:30 am to MrCoolBeans
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No Rain, Blind Melon
Huh? That song was written before Brad Smith met Shannon Hoon, and Shannon was the band junkie.
Brad's own words:
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"No Rain" came from when I first moved to California and I was playing songs on Venice Beach for change. I was having to come up with material during the week after my construction job, and then I would get my guitar and go down to the beach and open up a guitar case. I'd play on the Venice Beach boardwalk for change, for enough money to pay for parking and chicken teriyaki. That was my weekend.
And it was inspired by just how tough it was in LA. I had bouts of depression and the whole, "What am I doing out here? Am I going to go back to Mississippi? I'm never going back to Mississippi." I would just fight it and stick to my guns. Like, "I want to be a musician, I want to be out here in California. I don't want to go back home." I had nobody out here. There was no family, I didn't know a soul out here at first.
So the song is about not being able to get out of bed and find excuses to face the day when you have really, in a way, nothing. It was like rock bottom. I wasn't even on drugs or drinking. It was just tough. It was just a tough point in my life. And the cool thing about that song, I think a lot of people do interpret those lyrics properly and can connect with it on that level, where "I don't understand why I sleep all day and I start to complain that there's no rain." It's just a line about, I'd rather it be raining so I can justify myself by laying in the bed and not doing anything. But it's a sunny day, so go out and face it.
So that's where the lyric and the song was inspired from, is just having to write songs. Then being in the state of mind I was in and having to come up with material to go play down on the beach for change. I played that song on the beach for change for over a year before Shannon Hoon actually joined the band and really made that song a hit. I think that was a good song, and Shannon made it a great song.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 7:37 am
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:46 am to Galactic Inquisitor
The Doors?
My understanding is that heroin is what killed him, Morrison did not really use it during The Doors run. More or less found it in Paris?
AIC I know where big into heroin. Or at least Staley was. I know a drummer died later as well as the bassist?
My understanding is that heroin is what killed him, Morrison did not really use it during The Doors run. More or less found it in Paris?
AIC I know where big into heroin. Or at least Staley was. I know a drummer died later as well as the bassist?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:19 am to OldTigahFot
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I'd say that probably half of Aerosmith's early works would qualify in this category if we are talking about music written while under heroin influence.
Closer to all - if you count everything before the comeback, when they were "Future Villain Band".
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No way to know how much of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin's work was "enhanced".
So much controversy surrounds Hendrix - no question he was a substance abuser, but many allege that he was not a regular heroin user or the heroin use came very late, more or less after the creative period and prior to his death. Anecdotally, Steve Miller claims that Hendrix was a heroin junkie and being "run by the Mafia" the last time he saw him.
Just so we're clear, Hendrix did not overdose on heroin - he aspirated and asphyxiated because of acute barbiturate poisoning. He reportedly took 9 Vesparax tablets shortly before his death.
His blood, post-mortem, had concentrations of barbiturates (consistent with Vesparax), amphetamine and alcohol. NO OPIATES.
Joplin was a polysubstance abuser, as well. More of a speed freak early on - she ultimately developed a $200 a day heroin habit (back when $200 was a lot of money). Her cause of death was heroin overdose (possibly compounded by alcohol).
Again, not sure how much of her creative period was "fueled" by heroin, but she fits the profile much better than Jimi - Jimi was a notorious hallucinogenic user.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 9:25 am
Posted on 11/13/15 at 9:23 am to LSU alum wannabe
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AIC I know where big into heroin. Or at least Staley was. I know a drummer died later as well as the bassist?
Staley (frontman) and Starr (original bassist) both died from overdoses (Starr had a terrible heroin habit, which he fought to varying degrees of success, but died of a prescription drug overdose). Sean Kinney is the only drummer, ever, for AIC.
When you have 2 high profile heroin addicts in the band - before Starr was fired for heroin use - there is the possibility that all were addicts at one point. Starr is likely the last person to see Staley alive, as well.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:42 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:I have no idea where the hell I got that.
So, unless you can provide some sort of link for that, I don't believe you.
I have been hopped up on Tussionex for a couple days now. There was one Gilmour concert where Geldof came out and sang it, and somehow I must have got that in my head.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 12:51 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Achilles Last Stand
Posted on 11/13/15 at 4:31 pm to LSU alum wannabe
He Hit Me And It Felt Like a Kiss- The Motels, a huge heroin band.
Early Pretenders was heroin fueled, kinda obvious since 3 of the 4 members ODed.
The Clash was a big heroin band, check out Ghetto Defendant.
Alman Bros all used.
Early Pretenders was heroin fueled, kinda obvious since 3 of the 4 members ODed.
The Clash was a big heroin band, check out Ghetto Defendant.
Alman Bros all used.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 7:41 pm to Lakeboy7
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Early Pretenders was heroin fueled, kinda obvious since 3 of the 4 members ODed.
Honeyman-Scott had a liver condition, which probably contributed to his death. Farndon was definitely a user.
ETA. JHS died of a cocaine-related heart attack, apparently.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 11/13/15 at 7:46 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Mr Brownstone / Guns n Roses
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:45 pm to LSU alum wannabe
2X4 - Blind Melon
Posted on 11/14/15 at 1:45 am to MontanaMax
Sublime - Pawnshop
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:55 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Honeyman-Scott had a liver condition, which probably contributed to his death. Farndon was definitely a user.
Right, Farndon died of herioin, H-S died from coke.
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