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GOTH? Are you?
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:10 pm
First off, I never dressed in all black or wore black lipstick. In fact, the "goth" bands" I liked occurred to me much later in life. In my teenage years, the shallow city and the shallow clubs I grew up around MIGHT have played a KMFDM song or Front Line Assembly tune or two. NIN, Stabbing Westward, and the one remake from the band called Orgy -- it was them and a lot of hip hop by 1998-2000.
It's DARKWAVE, people and it can encompass the likes of Siouxie and the Banshees and NIN and KMFDM and Pigface and The Cure and The Revolting Cocks and The Smiths and I could go one and on. I also love Ministry, The Cult (early), KMFDM, Clan of Xymox, Fields of Nephilim...so many more.
What I want to leave here is a mundane love of a music that "I never dressed up for" nor hated anyone more/less in spite of. Pop, cold wave, shoe gaze, dark wave, dance, electro, Industrial...it's all a part.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
It's DARKWAVE, people and it can encompass the likes of Siouxie and the Banshees and NIN and KMFDM and Pigface and The Cure and The Revolting Cocks and The Smiths and I could go one and on. I also love Ministry, The Cult (early), KMFDM, Clan of Xymox, Fields of Nephilim...so many more.
What I want to leave here is a mundane love of a music that "I never dressed up for" nor hated anyone more/less in spite of. Pop, cold wave, shoe gaze, dark wave, dance, electro, Industrial...it's all a part.
WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 8:11 pm
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Posted on 2/24/17 at 8:50 pm to PiscesTiger
When I think of goth, I think of Type O Negative. I see it as completely different from industrial.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:19 pm to Brosef Stalin
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I think of Type O Negative. I see it as completely different from industrial.
They certainly had Industrial elements. hey were North American (Brooklyn).
The Sisters of Mercy; Mission UK(the guitarist of the former -- Wayne Hussey-- starting a VERY successful band); Fields of Nephilim (ever see the movie Hardware? The "nomad" was played by Carl McCoy, the lead singer).
Ministry,Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Pigface, Front 242, etc were all mainly English-American acts and they were PURELY industrial. Meanwhile, Fields, Mission, Comsat Angels, Clan of Xymox, etc etc were becoming stars in Europe and relied on INSTRUMENTS; The Sisters of Mercy, for instance, had a drum machine.
Here is the GOTH song that encompasses all:
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And if you like it and wear Polo shirts and watch The Bachelor and you happen to like certain mainstream ideals...BUT you listen to the above song...let me shake your hand!
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:47 pm to PiscesTiger
Definitely was never into the goth stuff. That had kinda spun itself out before I was a teen. I listened to some of the emo stuff of the time (Hawthorne Heights, My Chemical Romance, The Used), but never dressed like one. I never cared much for the industrial goth stuff.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 9:52 pm to PiscesTiger
In the 90's, a buddy of mine living in South Florida invited me to St. Petersburg to take in a bar concert of some wild band he knew about. We got to the club, and the line of freak show was down the block. We couldn't get in.
The band was Marylin Manson. I remember some guy walking by me, pointing out, "Dude has short hair."
The band was Marylin Manson. I remember some guy walking by me, pointing out, "Dude has short hair."
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:00 pm to LSUgusto
Does anyone remember dancing at the Lizard Lounge on "Church Night" in Dallas? WOW...was that an event and a place!
That was the first time I had ever heard "Preacher Man" by Fields of Nephilim, followed by FLA's "Mindphaser" and on a dance-floor to beat! Also, I knew Baton Rouge had no scene even like it. Yeah, "goth" to LSU college kids was Limp Bizkit's guitar player or Marilyn Manson.
That was the first time I had ever heard "Preacher Man" by Fields of Nephilim, followed by FLA's "Mindphaser" and on a dance-floor to beat! Also, I knew Baton Rouge had no scene even like it. Yeah, "goth" to LSU college kids was Limp Bizkit's guitar player or Marilyn Manson.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:36 pm to PiscesTiger
I was really into all of that music but without the makeup and only black/dark clothes. I went to the Blue Crystal a good bit back in the mid to late eighties. Saw KMFDM at the new Orleans music hall with about 30 other people in the crowd. Still listen to old Goth and industrial type music 60% of the time.
How did it spread? First and foremost, college radio stations (WTUL) then, MTV's "120 Minutes" late night show if you had cable, magazines, word of mouth, songs played at the clubs, and seeing every live show possible, like NIN for $1 at Tipitinas or $12 for Jane's Addiction and Love and Rockets in Nov 1987. I don't recall the name "Goth" being used to describe it till later in the early nineties.
How did it spread? First and foremost, college radio stations (WTUL) then, MTV's "120 Minutes" late night show if you had cable, magazines, word of mouth, songs played at the clubs, and seeing every live show possible, like NIN for $1 at Tipitinas or $12 for Jane's Addiction and Love and Rockets in Nov 1987. I don't recall the name "Goth" being used to describe it till later in the early nineties.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 2/24/17 at 11:59 pm to PiscesTiger
because people back then used to be passionate and creative about finding new music.
Not that hard to figure out.
Not that hard to figure out.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:09 pm to PiscesTiger
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WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
I know in Houston there was Record Rack and Numbers. Houston Press rag would always advertise local msuic venues so if you knew certain bands were at certain bars/clubs, you would have a pulse on it. But when Q93(before it went country) broadcasted live from Club 6400 on saturday nights, it really took off here. Then for us it was searching out record labels like Wax Trax Records or Mute Records.
But that was my experience.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:31 pm to Cdawg
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Cdawg
I guess what I should have asked (and you and CAD are the only two who I trust more than my own brain about this type of music), is how did the U.S. consumers know about bands like Fields of Nephilim, The Mission UK, The Chameleons, Comsat Angels, and Killing Joke when 99 percent of their concerts were back in Europe; not to mention, radio gave all of whom I mentioned ZERO airplay. In 1987, how did one who Carl McCoy or Wayne Hussey even were?
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Houston Press rag would always advertise local msuic venues so if you knew certain bands were at certain bars/clubs, you would have a pulse on it. But when Q93(before it went country) broadcasted live from Club 6400 on saturday nights, it really took off here. Then for us it was searching out record labels like Wax Trax Records or Mute Records.
Houston is such a different, diverse creature. NOLA does enough by itself, with 25 percent of the population but Baton Rouge and Lafayette and Shreveport never did and still do not have a beat on music that's on fire in Eurasia or Australia. For instance, aside from England, the majority of 80's goth fans are from Argentina and Chile...or from extreme northern Europe.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:53 am to PiscesTiger
Living in NOLA, I would go to Tower Records a good bit and read a lot of local rags and even Rolling Stone, Spin, etc. Even Thrasher magazine would have a music section. By 1987 though, 120 Minutes was a pretty big deal.
I remember being a big Sisters of Mercy fan and a guy from Houston told me that it was too Gothic for him. That was the first time I heard that term related to music. That was 86 or 87.
I remember being a big Sisters of Mercy fan and a guy from Houston told me that it was too Gothic for him. That was the first time I heard that term related to music. That was 86 or 87.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:02 am to PiscesTiger
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WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS HOW THE POST-PUNK AND INDUSTRIAL MOVEMENT BECAME POPULAR IN THE STATES? BEFORE THE INTERNET?
I don't really know. Drugs and word of mouth, probably.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:18 am to PiscesTiger
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how did the U.S. consumers know about bands like Fields of Nephilim, The Mission UK, The Chameleons, Comsat Angels, and Killing Joke
It was college radio (KLSU) for me. Mtv's 120minutes and USA Nightflight tv show played some of it too. But you need to understand, none of the post-punk or alternative music was very popular back then. Not many "US consumers" knew about those bands. For example, Love & Rockets had MTV hits back then but they played Tips. There just wasn't a big audience for different music back then.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 5:25 pm to PiscesTiger
yeah.. KMFDM and the other german technotronic sounds were great for teenage angst.
But it was word of mouth in middle school..
First you would hear of Local bands like Acid Bath and Pantera.. then just venture around the music store asking questions of like sounding bands..
But it was word of mouth in middle school..
First you would hear of Local bands like Acid Bath and Pantera.. then just venture around the music store asking questions of like sounding bands..
Posted on 2/27/17 at 6:02 pm to vilma4prez
I have so much I want to add to this thread. Maybe in the morning when I have more time Eta I still own Almost every CD released by 4AD, projekt, hyperium and FAX
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 6:04 pm to PiscesTiger
I grew up in the 80's, and most of my knowledge was limited to the bigger named artists - The Smiths, The Cure, etc. There was an older girl in the neighborhood I was pretty infatuated with that listened to a lot of the lesser known ones. I'd listen to them with her when she'd humor me and let me hang around, but I don't remember any of them now. I do know she used to listen to the local college radio station all the time, so I assume that's where she discovered most of them And MTV 120 minutes. We used to watch that. We were just a bunch of white boy skater posers that could barely do an ollie that pretended we knew what The Sex Pistols were singing about.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 6:07 pm to The Spleen
Who remembers the punk band living in the slum behind the bayou that trashed an entire apartment complex? This was like 82
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:53 pm to PiscesTiger
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Killing Joke when 99 percent of their concerts were back in Europe
Metallica covered "The Wait" in 1987...We were listening to/ watching "In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up...Live" in BTR before 1990. on that same VHS tape, we met Jello Biafra...and the rest is word of mouth.
In Houston, by 1990, we were all Dead Horse fans.
I still get hollers when I wear one of the thousand shirts greg and Alpo left when they didn't sell in 1991 in BR.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:06 pm to PiscesTiger
Y'all all forgetting the grand daddies of Goth: Bauhaus
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