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re: Danko/Manuel is one of the best songs of this generation

Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 8:16 pm to
Listening to Cartoon Gold right now, forgot how good it is
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 4/3/13 at 9:28 pm to
Am I the only one who preferred DBTs pre- Isbell more?

Seems like it...
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:44 am to
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The band made him write the best songs of DBT?

When he left, the songwriting took a big step back.
Other than TDJHD, Isbell's songs are pretty meh. Cooley is the band.

Agree with the poster above on Hood. What an a-hole.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:04 am to
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When he left, the songwriting took a big step back.

I think Brighter Than Creation's Dark is their best album, made in the wake of Isbell leaving. I think Hood is now underrated as its become cliche to bag on him. I will say that he doesn't have as good of a filter as the other guys. Cooley and Isbell could crank out three absolute gems per album, but Hood could write a song a day if you let him. Though some of his ideas our best left on the drawing board.

I think Hood is a phenomenal storyteller, though Cooley is better at creating and inhabiting a single character.

Also, if you've seen the doc on the band, the scene with Isbell playing Goddamn Lonely Love while the camera focused on Shonna Tucker is heartbreaking. I do think DBT has largely run its course, but they had about a decade long run of brilliance, which is better than almost everyone else on the planet.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:19 am to
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I think Brighter Than Creation's Dark is their best album


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Cooley could crank out three absolute gems per album


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I do think DBT has largely run its course, but they had about a decade long run of brilliance, which is better than almost everyone else on the planet.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:39 am to
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The band made him write the best songs of DBT?
absurd, imo. i honestly don't think isbell could hold cooley's quill

and that's saying cooley is superb, not isbell is terrible.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:48 am to
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think Hood is now underrated as its become cliche to bag on him.
personally, i like patterson. but patterson's misses are worse than cooley or isbell's. when he's on, he's amazing.


sometimes i think he writes songs because he feels the need to say anything. sometimes, he writes with conviction.
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:36 am to
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I think Hood is now underrated as its become cliche to bag on him. I will say that he doesn't have as good of a filter as the other guys. Cooley and Isbell could crank out three absolute gems per album, but Hood could write a song a day if you let him. Though some of his ideas our best left on the drawing board.



i think this really sums it up. patterson seems to be the type that fills a notebook a week with ideas, while the others just seem to be a bit more surgical with their strikes.

when patterson is at the top of his game hes fantastic though.... but with that volume there are definitely misses.

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I think Hood is a phenomenal storyteller, though Cooley is better at creating and inhabiting a single character.


agreed that hood takes a much more storytelling approach - even his latest solo he acknowledges started as him writing a novel that the chapters just turned out to be better songs in a album.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:40 am to
I've enjoyed isbells albums. Never cared for DBT save isbell
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:44 am to
Always preferred the Hood/Cooley partnership and dynamic... Dont get me wrong, I think Isbell wrote some good songs...

I definitely loved the live shows much more in the early days... never heard a band use the word butthole so much in one show...
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:46 am to
DBT always came off as corny to me IMO. Never took them seriously.

Saw them live at the varsity and was bored to tears and left before the show was over.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:17 pm to
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DBT always came off as corny to me IMO. Never took them seriously.

Saw them live at the varsity and was bored to tears and left before the show was over.


The early Chelsea's (old location) shows were fricking great... intimate and loud as frick...
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:31 pm to
Lucero > DBT, especially at old Chelsea's
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:33 pm to
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Danko/Manuel


The what?
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:34 pm to
No way... IMO, the gap was between the Majors and double A ball...
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 12:47 pm to
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No way... IMO, the gap was between the Majors and double A ball...

My take as well. Lucero is a good band, but DBT is on a whole other level. They are one of the true giants of the indie scene (as they say, it was a blessing and a curse). And I think DBT will continue forever, as its really the Hood/Cooley partnership with other musicians coming and going. That's the central dynamic of the band, and it always has been.

Isbell is certainly the best guy to move through the roster, but he was never that central core of DBT. And I can't imagine being bored at one of their shows, but to each his own. They are one of the best live bands I've ever seen, right up their with Fugazi at their peak.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:25 pm to
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DBT always came off as corny to me IMO. Never took them seriously.

Saw them live at the varsity and was bored to tears and left before the show was over.
This makes perfect sense.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 1:47 pm to
Ben Nichols is a better, more consistent songwriter than Cooley to me.

Sweet Little Thing
Slow Dancing
Nights Like These
Ain't So Lonely
Old Sad Songs
Chain Link Fence
Fistful Of Tears
That Much Further West
Mine Tonight
Sad and Lonely
Across the River
Only One
Hate and Jealousy
Joining the Army
Tonight Ain't Gonna Be Good
Tears Don't Matter Much
Coming Home
When You Decided To Leave
Little Silver Heart
My Best Girl
Wandering Star
Dangerous Thing
Drink 'Till We're Gone
Raising Hell
Banks of the Arkansas
All Sewn Up
Wasted
Hold Fast
Better Than This
All These Love Songs
No Roses No More
It Gets the Worst at Night

Tell me where the bad songs are from that list
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 2:06 pm to
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DBT always came off as corny to me IMO. Never took them seriously.


Okay, we get it. You make multiple posts in every DBT topic saying pretty much the same thing.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 2:17 pm to
I like Lucero... I was talking in regards to the live show...

DBTs are superior to Lucero... they could both be singing nursery rhymes...
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 2:23 pm
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