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Cheapest, easiest, best acoustic guitar pickup?

Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:21 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26964 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 9:21 am
Why I want to amplify the crap I play is beyond me, but if I did, what are suggestions.

A. Something I can install? Is this sensible? I'm VERY novice. Would I just screw it up?
B. Easy to remove and not scratch.

FYI my guitar is a Blue Ridge BR-160 if that matters to installation?

And in no way do I want to cut on the sides of this guitar to put real electronics. I feel it will hurt the sound and I'm not that good to begin with.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 10:59 am to
I have Baggs Element pickups in two of my acoustics. They cost around $150 and I had them installed (I forget what the installation charge was). Anyway I've been very satisfied with the results, having owned these two guitars for years now.

I tried the cheaper Markley product but had issues with my pick dragging over the thing. That could be a "me" issue instead of the product though.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26964 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 11:07 am to
quote:

cost around $150 and I had them installed


That puts it out of what I am willing to spend. BUT that is an answer I needed as well. thanks for the info.
Posted by Mars duMorgue
Sunset Dist/SF
Member since Aug 2015
2816 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 11:21 am to
The Baggs makes sense if your guitar is say, in the $800-and-above price range--you figure that the addition of a Baggs pickup enhances the value of the guitar somewhat.

But on a less expensive guitar--say something in the $400-$500 range--adding a $150 pickup may not be worth it.

Check out the Markley. It's popular, which says to me that the problem I had with it was due to my clumsiness, not a product defect. The Markley costs around $50 at a GC and you can take it on and off yourself.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27818 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 12:12 pm to
There are some pickups that go under the saddle that are OK only have to drill 1 small hole under the saddle for wire and a bigger hole at the strap knob. I think they are called Pezio.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1237 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 1:44 pm to
May want to try a Seymour Duncan Woody. Readily available, very affordable and good sounding pop-in/pop-out as needed unit.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27818 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 1:53 pm to
Yeah, Those really are good,and the best way to go,if you dont want to drill or anything. Can even pick them up at pawn shops really cheap. The Pawn shops separate that stuff out when they get ready to sell it.

I saw a pick up a while back, that was tucked just inside the sound hole,and attatched with a clamp. Do you know anything about those? It was almost invisible and out of the way,I just don't know how good they are,but I liked the idea.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1237 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:03 pm to
The only pop-ins I've personally used are the Dean Markley and SD units. Both serve the purpose well. They don't sound as good as modern piezo systems by guys like Fishman and L.R. Baggs, but they are definitely ultra convenient, unobtrusive/reversible (you will need a guy like me to install a modern piezo system, and it will involve instrument modifications), and pop-ins are literally a fraction of even a decent piezo package.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27818 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:13 pm to
Man, I am really glad you are on this board! It really means a lot to me,that you are willing to share educated information.

Do you do neck resets on acoustics?
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1237 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:24 pm to
Yep, I have a '73 Gibson Hummingbird that's next on the neck reset slate.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26964 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:31 pm to
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TheFretShack


Only 37 posts. I assume you own a shop and saw some business here.

I also assume you are in BR, hence too far away to take any of my Houston area $$$



Thanks for you input thus far. I am in no way interested in drilling into my guitar in any way. It's just a Blue Ridge, but I swear to my ignorant ear it sounds like a D-28.

Certainly close to not justify the extra $2500.

That guitar hit the jackpot with me. It will lead a coddled life. especially for a sub $1000 guitar.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27818 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:32 pm to
Man I have a Yamaha FG230 12 string that I wouldn't mind having done,if it is feasible.

Since it is an all laminated guitar, some guys in Nashville have told me,the guitar might actually come apart when they put the steam to it,and ruin it.

The thing sounds unreal,and is playable,but I wish it could be a little better. Don't want to ruin it though.

What is your opinion? I am in your area quite a bit,I think.

Oh yeah, There is a Guitar shop in Huntsville,Al named The Fret Shop Its a great Acoustic shop, the biggest selection of Martins and Taylors I have ever seen anywhere,you guys related?
This post was edited on 5/21/16 at 2:38 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26964 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

73 Gibson Hummingbird that's next on the neck reset slate.



Sounds pricey. No pressure.

That's my birth year guitar. Would love a birth year guitar. But they are pricey. Not pre 68' Brazilian rosewood pricey, but pricey.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27818 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 2:49 pm to
Man, Those Blueridge guitars are getting some respect these days.. I remember when they first came out, I had a couple that I sold for under 150 bucks..can't touch one for that now.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26964 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Those Blueridge guitars are getting some respect these days.


I found mind at GC for $399. Had no intent of spending 400 bones that day, but I almost bought one a few years back. It's a BR-160. Looked great. Sounded huge in their room. I started digging. They had a D28 vintage 1982 (I believe) that I played and a new HD-28 that I played also to compare. I thought it held its own. AT LEAST. And the neck is very thin and playable. It also came with the case and was 10 years old and looked pristine. Just couldn't leave it there. But I did. Got online and couldn't find one anywhere for less than $500-600. New were 750-900. I ran back and strummed the same guitars and bought it.

One day I hope to be a better player than it is a guitar, but I may have to live to a ripe old age.

I felt like I got one over on big mean old Guitar Center. I ask, did I??
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27818 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 3:20 pm to
For me personally,this is how I am thinking these days, Manufacturing techniques have come a long way. The glue and bonding systems are better than ever. Cutting techniques..etc..
but,we won't know for 50 years, how these hold up,compared to the old ones.

Play the hell out of it and enjoy it. That's all you can do.

If being a picker is important to you,as soon as you slow down on the time you are putting in,go buy a different guitar. You have to stay interested,and it is amazing how picking up a different one can do that for you.

Also,different guitars will inspire you in different directions.

I am not very educated on any technical aspects,like some guys on here, I am mostly a writer. From my standpoint a new sound can take my playing in a new direction, and that in turn,can make a twist in my lyrics.

I love stringed instruments in general, I am very lucky, I have a wife that loves them too.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1237 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 6:02 pm to
Before I'd recommend cutting up any guitar to install electric guts, I'd recommend buying one of the many guitars on the market that ALREADY has nice guts installed. You can get A/Es now in pretty much all market price points, and even the "cheap" guitars have decent electric packages that will perform the task well.

The only real disadvantage to pop-in pickups is the cable dangling off the front face of the guitar. If you plan to perform live with one or even just move around with one, run the cable around the butt strap pin so it won't either trip you up or you rip the pickup out of the guitar from your foot getting knotted in the cable. Trust me on this haha.

Thanks for the kind words. I only have a few dozen posts because I only jump in on guitar repair/mod/tech questions and only if I have good info, insight or some takeaway to offer someone. Yep, I have a repair shop and yes, there is a marketing opportunity here. Emphasis on "opportunity" because I haven't had a client yet who told me they came to me as a result of this forum LOL In the meantime, I enjoy helping folks out so it's all good.

I could eat some serious bandwidth on neck resets, Auggie. Let's just say they should be considered on a case-by-case basis because they are labor intensive and subsequently not cheap. Viable candidates are generally decades-old prestige/upper-end instruments and/or instruments with a heirloom/nostalgia component that exceeds market value (ex., my first nice acoustic, my deceased Grandpa's old flattop). And in any case, after all other possible less intrusive, less intensive and less $$$$$ solutions have been explored.

Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27818 posts
Posted on 5/21/16 at 6:12 pm to
Thank you very much,you are really telling me the same thing as everybody else,and that lets me know that it is all honest,talking to people that really care,and give good advice.

I hope you continue to be here,it can help a lot of people.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19126 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 7:05 am to
Cheapest and easiest...that would be a Dean Markley



Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89481 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Cheapest and easiest...that would be a Dean Markley


This is the way I lean for the OP's question.

I've been an Ovation guy, acoustically (although I do have a Westerly Guild D-35, circa 1980 - ), and the A/E versions are solid, all-in-one choices. I have no problems recommending the Korean made Celebrity line, although I don't have experience with their Chinese made. Seems pretty straightforward. They are not "heirlooms" (although I gave a Celebrity to my son), but they are great, guitars made for playing.
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