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Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:23 pm to wildtigercat93
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Make an R rated Deadpool/Wolverine movie that makes up for the abomination of the first Ryan Reynolds Deadpool adaptation and watch the money flow
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:26 pm to abellsujr
To get audiences ready for this, he has to be a part of X-Force...or at least passing the torch, so to speak.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:31 pm to abellsujr
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Well, considering Ant Man (a superhero that nobody has heard of) made more than the last Wolverine movie, they may be inclined to try something new.
You're comparing Marvel to Fox
The only X-men movie made that has surpassed half a million was Days of Future Past, and i'm sure Deadpool and Apocalypse will.
Outside of the Thor, Hulk and the first Cap, every movie has made over half a million in the Marvel Universe.
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Jackman has also said in the past that he wants a rated R movie. Don't be surprised if you're wrong...
It wouldn't bother me much. Like i said before, he already pushes the envelope of PG-13. It won't take much to make him R. I mean they made The Avengers cut out showing Loki's sceptor going through Coulson b/c it would make it rated R, but Wolverine can look a guy in the eyes and stab him through his throat.
I get it, he's a rated R character, but they don't need to go overboard with the rating. He's rated R b/c of his violence. There doesn't need to be tits and F words flying everywhere in a Wolverine movie. Leave that to Porky's.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:36 pm to wildtigercat93
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Make an R rated Deadpool/Wolverine movie that makes up for the abomination of the first Ryan Reynolds Deadpool adaptation and watch the money flow
Would immediately pass The Dark Knight as comic movie GOAT.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:39 pm to RedPants
Very curious as to how it would work though. The 4th wall and humor and all that needs to be in every Deadpool movie, but if he's sharing the screen with another big time hero, it might be hard to put that together
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:39 pm to abellsujr
on an unrelated note, i let my kids watch the wolverine the other day (i actually liked that one a decent bit... woulda liked it more if they had let him go the samurai route. i like jackman, but he's been a fit guy with claws his whole tenure and a mediocre fighter... bullcrap, the dude was a freaking assassin who would never let that bitch mystique bitchkick him in x-men 1. /rant) and totally forgot they put the f bomb in there.
in fact. all 3 of the last xmen movies have had the f word. teetering on getting r rated.
in fact. all 3 of the last xmen movies have had the f word. teetering on getting r rated.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:41 pm to Ace Midnight
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Ace Midnight
Again, the casual viewer does not respect short midgets as lead characters that are the protagonist. And they have to sell tickets to those because they vastly outnumber the fanboys.
They may do an R rating and use more source material that is true to the character but a short Wolverine will never happen. End of story.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:49 pm to Sentrius
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Again, the casual viewer does not respect short midgets as lead characters that are the protagonist.
Meh. Tom Cruise and Sylvester Stallone have done well as lead actors.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:52 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:True, but money is money. Wolverine alone has not been that successful. One of the biggest successes for Fox/Marvel is now a rated R movie. If Jackman wants it, it may be enough to push them to try it. It's not like Wolverine is much of a risk either. His movies don't have to be expensive to make like Avengers or Superman. Look for Fox to try more low budget movies more true to the characters. And I think Wolverine's violence is heavier than you think. Yes PG13 15 years ago was much more tame than today, but cutting off limbs, blood streaking in the air, and his body reconstruction can get pretty bloody in the comics (see previous pictures I've posted). You can't do that justice with a PG13 rating even today.
You're comparing Marvel to Fox
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:54 pm to Ace Midnight
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Tom Cruise and Sylvester Stallone have done well as lead actors.
Exceptions to the rule.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:58 pm to Sentrius
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Exceptions to the rule.
Fair enough. For that matter, Wolverine is an exception to the rule that heroes are tall.
Should have been part of the character. It creates a disconnect.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:06 pm to Cap Crunch
agreed cap - i think that was one of his best posts on Facebook and completely agree with it.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:10 pm to Sentrius
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Nobody respects a short man. If they're going to put a character that is a complete alpha on the big screen, goddamn it they a putting a dude that is at least 6 feet tall, not a midget.
Being a little ball of hate is part of what makes Wolverine awesome and is what makes his name make sense.
Wolverines look like little cute woodland creatures that cant do shite right up until they show their teeth and rip your face off.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:17 pm to Sentrius
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Exceptions to the rule.
not really.
actors can always stand on an apple box or be shot with certain angles if need be.
Jason Statham, Mark Wahlburg, Elijah Wood, Joaquin Phoenix, Scott Caan, James Caan, Robert Duvall, Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Sean Penn, James McAvoy, Dustin Hoffman, and Andrew Garfield are all 5'9 or shorter.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:22 pm to abellsujr
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True, but money is money. Wolverine alone has not been that successful. One of the biggest successes for Fox/Marvel is now a rated R movie.
They both made more money than X-Men: First Class and right now The Wolverine is the 3rd most successful film worldwide in the X-Men franchise.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:28 pm to Dr RC
It may have been successful by Fox standards, but $414 mil is not that successful when compared to all comic movies. It made money, but it's being compared to a lot of movies that were released years ago (IE X2, Last Stand). That's not an adjusted total. Just because it's Fox's third most successful comic film doesn't make it incredibly successful. If you want to say it was mildly successful, fine. But he's not on top of the food chain or anything.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:40 pm to Sentrius
Tom Hardy is super short and pulled off playing Bane. It can work.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:44 pm to abellsujr
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That's not an adjusted total.
I know the totals are not adjusted but BOM doesn't give the adjusted totals for worldwide numbers b/c its a much harder number to calculate due to differences in splits and distribution deals.
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It may have been successful by Fox standards, but $414 mil is not that successful when compared to all comic movies.
they aren't Iron Man/Phase 2/3 Marvel, Batman/Superman, or Spiderman numbers but those returns aren't anything to scoff at either.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:00 pm to Ace Midnight
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So, it depends on what eras and what storylines. Super heroes rarely killed anyone in the good old days. By the time you get to Wolverine in the 1980s - he wasn't above killing at all - although it didn't become a blood bath overnight.
No, but he certainly had his moments.
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