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Will we ever see Yi Ti in Game of Thrones?

Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Kingsguard
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:42 pm
it is based of china . A huge advanced empire

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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:44 pm to
I don't think we'll even see Essos again, nevertheless Yi Ti.
Posted by Tedock
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:47 pm to
Hopefully not, they have too much shite to cover and very little time.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:06 pm to
I think the whole point of Essos and the other continents is that our characters in GRRM's series have little to no knowledge of it. It doesn't make any sense for him to change away from that, and keeps our mystique of these places intact.

They very well might be as exotic as we expect, but they probably rape and kill and shite in the streets like everywhere else.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:14 pm to
A lot to cover in 13-15 episodes so I'm going to go with no. But it's possiblity we might see some of these mysterious lands in a spin series. Hopefully
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:16 pm to
I think we will certainly not see it in the show. In the books, though, I think Yi Ti will play some role. I don't think any POV characters will see it directly, but it will be heavily referenced and one of them may meet dignitaries or traders from Yi Ti. I, personally, think that in the books, Dany will not sail west from Slavers' Bay after winning the Battle of Meereen, but East. She will sail to Asshai, circumnavigating the world, and land her armies on the western shores of Westeros near Casterly Rock.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:29 pm to
Sadly we got Slavers Bay instead of Yi Ti and Asshai in the books and show.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:43 pm to
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I think we will certainly not see it in the show. In the books, though, I think Yi Ti will play some role. I don't think any POV characters will see it directly, but it will be heavily referenced and one of them may meet dignitaries or traders from Yi Ti. I, personally, think that in the books, Dany will not sail west from Slavers' Bay after winning the Battle of Meereen, but East. She will sail to Asshai, circumnavigating the world, and land her armies on the western shores of Westeros near Casterly Rock.



That doesn't make any sense to me, since Slaver's Bay is the halfway point between Westeros and Asshai (it's probably further from Asshai actually). So you're guaranteed to add some time to your journey just to go to Asshai, and no one knows how long it takes to get to Westeros from Asshai by going East. Plus I think Asshai's intrigue comes more from it being mysterious, and I can't see it being anymore interesting than Melisandre herself is.

Plus Valyria is a much more interesting route for her to take. Essos at large has a much bigger problem with Dany than they do in the show, to where I don't expect her to get to Westeros with an army on scale of what she has on the show. Narratively it makes sense due to it being Dany's ancestral homeland and Tyrion has had multiple family members go missing in search of it as well as the Lannister great sword being there. Yes, we've seen Valyria in the show, but in the books its supposed to make Mordor look like Napa Valley. The show just didn't have the budget to show it properly.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Waffle House
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:53 pm to
Confirmed: Song of Ice and Fire inspired by Sweet and Sour Pork.
Posted by PatDyesPants
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:05 pm to
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In the books, though,


There might not be any additional books.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:07 pm to
Could there be more dragons in the Shadow Lands of Asshai? That's where Dany supposdlly got her dragon eggs from, and according to some lengends that's where the Valyrian's dragons originally came from.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:10 pm to
To go west, she must go east. I don't think they would have built Asshai up this much if it were not more important than just being the place where all the Red Priestesses come from. There is something absolutely vital to the end game that we need from Asshai. They need to go there to discover some secret knowledge or something. It seems like the myths regarding how the Others were originally defeated match up with those of the Rhollor religion. There must be something to Asshai to tie the two together.

I really believe that it will happen. Plus, it sets up the opportunity for Tyrion to redeem himself by sneaking Dany's army into Casterly Rock via the same Sewers he was put in charge of by his father. He gets to take control of what rightfully should belong to him. I think that is the proper direction for the story to go in.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:12 pm to
frick, I never knew there was a Sotheros till I looked on a map to see where Valyria was and the map says that it didn't include Sotheros.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:20 pm to
Makes one wonder if there is a White Walker homeland called Northoros
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Could there be more dragons in the Shadow Lands of Asshai? That's where Dany supposdlly got her dragon eggs from, and according to some lengends that's where the Valyrian's dragons originally came from.



At one point there were, but I can confidently say no from what we know in the books. Magic was mostly dead until Dany's dragons were born. Magic mostly died when the last Targaryen dragons died. Melisandre recognized her powers greatly amplified with the comet, but it was actually due to the dragons. If dragons were still around in Asshai or really anywhere else in the world, then their birth would have no affect on magic.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:28 pm to
Or maybe it was the blood ritual with the witch that brought magic back into the world. Magic being back in the world made the eggs come alive and the dragons be born. The return of magic was signaled by the red comet. Maybe it's all linked, just by a different trigger.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:30 pm to
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To go west, she must go east.


Prophesies are misleading. I don't think this is literal, and if it is its just to get her Dothraki hoard.

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I don't think they would have built Asshai up this much if it were not more important than just being the place where all the Red Priestesses come from. There is something absolutely vital to the end game that we need from Asshai. They need to go there to discover some secret knowledge or something. It seems like the myths regarding how the Others were originally defeated match up with those of the Rhollor religion. There must be something to Asshai to tie the two together.



Asshai is much more interesting being mysterious to me. I can't think of some overwhelming mystery about Asshai other than how old it is and its relationship to the Others, which can be answered through other means.

And they've built up Valyria far more than they have Asshai. The Doom happened for some reason, and I think that will be answered in the books. I just don't think its a coincidence that the Lannister great sword is there and that Martin made sure there was a very large seaway going through Valyria. There's much to discover there for both Dany and Tyrion.

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I really believe that it will happen. Plus, it sets up the opportunity for Tyrion to redeem himself by sneaking Dany's army into Casterly Rock via the same Sewers he was put in charge of by his father. He gets to take control of what rightfully should belong to him. I think that is the proper direction for the story to go in.



But looking at the map, Slaver's Bay is about as far from Asshai as it is from Casterly Rock. Also if it was somewhat close to Westeros, I think someone would have discovered it, namely the Ironborn.

Plus I don't see why Casterly Rock should be an important location for Tyrion and Dany to conquer. Really the important battle is facing the Others. Dragonstone is the logical landing point for Dany, especially due to the mass amount of Dragonglass reserves the island has. Things will have come full circle with her landing at her birthplace.

This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

I, personally, think that in the books, Dany will not sail west from Slavers' Bay after winning the Battle of Meereen, but East. She will sail to Asshai, circumnavigating the world, and land her armies on the western shores of Westeros near Casterly Rock.



I agree. i think Dany has to go through Valyria and Asshai to complete she and Tyrion's knowledge of what to do. Plus i think that Tyrion gets his family sword back there and ends up killing Cersei with it or might present it to the reformed Jaime.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

Or maybe it was the blood ritual with the witch that brought magic back into the world. Magic being back in the world made the eggs come alive and the dragons be born. The return of magic was signaled by the red comet. Maybe it's all linked, just by a different trigger.



I doubt they'd make a character that insignificant to the grand scheme of things the true catalyst to magic returning to the world. It would be one hell of a coincidence and sloppy writing.
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:36 pm to
what are some of the real life equivalents in got? my understanding is that westeros, except dorne, is mostly based on britain.
north - scotland
kings landing - sunny london
citadel - oxford
pike - ireland/vikings
dorne - spain
bravos - venice/amsterdam
valyria - ancient rome
slaver's bay - mideast
southyros - africa
others?
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