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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:55 am to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Ungoliant

I'm not familiar. Could this spider beat Smaug in a fight?
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:05 pm to
Easily. Easily. She's a Maiar spirits (think like angels), like Sauron, Gandalf, Sauruman, and the Balrogs
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:11 pm to
Where is Kumonga and Aragog? Do they not even garner consideration?


Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

I'm not familiar. Could this spider beat Smaug in a fight?
Yep. Ungoliant was well on her way to fully enveloping Melkor/Morgoth in her web until multiple balrogs came to his aid and chased her off.
Posted by lagallifrey
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 12:36 pm to
Ungoliant probably would have destroyed every character in LOTR/hobbit, including the balrog, Smaug, sauron, ringwraiths, Gandalf.
Posted by jojothetireguy
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:03 pm to
Why don't you go frick yourself tommy

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Who is the greatest fictional spider


The Queen Spider from South Park. Even the Pope ceded authority to her.
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 2:17 pm to
That's really fascinating. I need to read some Tolkien. I've only seen the movies and read the hobbit.
Posted by lagallifrey
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:04 pm to
Children of Hurin was published recently and is good. Beren and Luthien book comes out soon, which was a good tale from the silmarillion that is referenced more than once in LOTR movies.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:18 pm to
Is it worthwhile to read the Silmarillion if I haven't read LOTR? I already have it on kindle.
Posted by lagallifrey
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 3:25 pm to
Most of the events in silmarillion take place long before LOTR. It's been awhile but I think some of LOTR is referenced. I think reading it makes LOTR more enjoyable because there are tons of references to events and people in the silmarillion.

Just know that it reads more like an interesting history book than a novel. Some of the stories in it are great and you realize just how much of this world Tolkien had fleshed out.

Just a few examples: what are elves, orcs, dwarves, etc and where do they come from? What does it mean to go into the West over the sea? What are the wizards? What was that balrog? What are Sauron's origins?
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:14 pm to
Thanks for the input! Looking forward to it. It's been on my kindle a long time and it's time to do it.
Posted by mattchewbocca
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 5:27 pm to
The IT spider
Posted by DannyB
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:44 pm to
The spider in Krull that is linked to the old lady living at the center of the web.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 9:48 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:52 pm to
The correct answer is of course Q1.

Loth Queen of the Demonweb Pits.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Is it worthwhile to read the Silmarillion if I haven't read LOTR?
I love LOTR and read have read it multiple times. Silmarillion is boring AF.
Posted by vilma4prez
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 10:32 pm to
Ok..
What about the facehugger in aliens?

I think it has eight legs...
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 1/21/17 at 10:50 pm to
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quote:
Is it worthwhile to read the Silmarillion if I haven't read LOTR?
I love LOTR and read have read it multiple times. Silmarillion is boring AF.

It all depends on your perspective and intent. Someone above said it was like a history book.
Basically, it's Tolkien's life's work, and a masterpiece of imagination. He created a mythology that basically merges Judao-Christian beliefs with Norse or Greek mythology. The scope is tremendous, and as such the individual stories are small and dry; much like elements of the Bible or other old myths are dry. God cast Lucifer down, Michael defeated him and cast him into Hell. Go read that sometime, I think it might take a page or maybe two. Similarly, not much fleshing out of the Olympians taking down the Titans.
But those are fertile grounds for development; and you arguably get more of that in Tolkien.

Honestly, I would guess there are at least 5, maybe a good bit more, stories that would be WAY more epic than LOTR, if they were detailed.

To answer the OP: Ungoliant in a landslide. She is literally the darkness that consumes all.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 10:52 pm
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