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re: Wheel of Time Season 2

Posted on 10/7/23 at 1:20 am to
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 1:20 am to
I keep going back to this same thought.


This shouldn't be so hard to make.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:28 pm to
I finally got around to hate-watching this over the weekend.

I know, I know...



The biggest key to understanding this is that it's not the original story, but rather Rafe's re-write of the novels. A lot of the elements are there but a lot have been picked up, changed and/or moved around (Thom was absent this season, Jain Farstrider hasn't even been mentioned, a whole lot of the timeline of the Horn, almost everything involving Mat, etc).

If you can get beyond that, S2 wasn't too bad. There were some definite "wtf" moments and things they should have spent more time on (Egwene's time as a damane, for example). Were this series to change the names of characters, locations etc, it likely would get a better reception (at least from the book readers). But then that's the problem. When you take the name of a book series and say you are bringing that story to the screen, readers are wanting just that, not someone else's version of it.

The sfx really stepped up (although Loial still needs to be bigger and not have that ridiculous frizz-head), that helped.

So taking away the very legitimate gripe that this is enough of a re-writing of the novels to almost be a completely different entity (which includes brown-washing the cast), the biggest problem I see right now is that there is just too fricking much story to tell in only 8-episode seasons. They've created angles (like Moirraine's "stilling") which have taken time away from the other stories, thus making only 8 episodes an even worse idea. If I had one complaint right now about the series (aside from it not being the novels put to film) it would be that the pace moves so fast that it doesn't take adequate time to explain things well enough or get viewers deeply invested (the importance on angreal, Egwene/Renna, etc).

All in all, it wasn't "bad". It just isn't really the "Wheel of Time".
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28968 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:49 pm to
Finally watching now.

I’m not hating everything but a ton of stuff is fastracked.

I was really hoping that with them Mat recasting they would get the jovial trickster back but they decided to keep a sullen a-hole.

F Rafe.
Posted by joechristoppher77
Ruston
Member since Apr 2006
5320 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:43 am to
It's actually pretty good if you don't go all book reader purist...but it needed at least 2bmore episodes, it was too fast at the end
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:48 am to
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All in all, it wasn't "bad". It just isn't really the "Wheel of Time".


I think that fairly sums up my feelings. I read the books many years ago (never actually finished the series once Jordan stopped writing) and really enjoyed them.

I think I’ve forgotten enough to not be bothered by the differences, but remember enough to fill in a lot of the gaps.

At this point I accept this series as the best representation of the books we’ll probably ever get.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:53 pm to
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Oh, bullshite. Every book reader I know either quit around book 8 or slogged through "just to see how it ends". Those that are watching the show (not all have Prime) think it's better.


You hang out with stupid people then
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:58 pm to
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At this point I accept this series as the best representation of the books we’ll probably ever get.


But this is the exact reason this series sucks. Bc this is the only WOT series we’ll ever get and it supposedly had a big budget and was supposed to be epic. But it was shite, and now it’s all we’ll get.

Amazing how Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and Game of Thrones stayed pretty true to the source material and didn’t try to DEI the casting and were super popular. But nowadays we can’t have that. Every adaptation must be “inclusive” and rewritten for modern audiences…and they all suck.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31621 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:16 pm to
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All in all, it wasn't "bad". It just isn't really the "Wheel of Time".



Exactly. It’s not a bad show. It’s just deviating so much from the source material that people aren’t willing to look past it, which is fine. I’d be pissed too but the second season was SO much better than Season 1.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31621 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:16 pm to
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Amazing how Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and Game of Thrones stayed pretty true to the source material



Oh just you wait until the Harry Potter series comes out. That’s going to be fun
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:45 pm to
Well the good thing about that is I haven’t read all the Harry Potter books
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43373 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:28 pm to
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I’d be pissed too but the second season was SO much better than Season 1.


Lipstick and pigs and such. It's not the wheel of time. It's Rafe's fan-fic masturbation on screen.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 10:29 pm
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