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What Happened to The Late Show with David Letterman?
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:32 pm
I just finished reading the book The Late Shift. Great read--especially after what happened with Jay and Conan a decade later. Without spoiling, I'll just say that the book ends in a particular way that makes the reader think that the future is set. I haven't paid attention to late night in years (except for the latest Tonight Show debacle, which Howard Stern made a top talking point for months). How did "The Tonight Show" climb back to #1 after Dave split from NBC?
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:36 pm to shutterspeed
I read that the night Hugh Grant appeared on the Tonight Show to talk about his prostitution arrest was the night people tuned into the Tonight Show and it held number 1 since.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 10:58 pm to Tactical1
Yes it was the Hugh Grant interview that put Leno at number 1 and he held it. If I remember correctly when Leno took the tonight show back from Conan Lettetman pulled ahead in the ratings. No idea what the ratings are on average now.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:11 pm to TIGERSTORM
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No idea what the ratings are on average now.
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UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. – June 28, 2012 – NBC’s "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno" and "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon" have delivered #1 finishes for the second quarter of 2012 over the ABC and CBS competition in their time periods in viewers 18-49, total viewers and other key categories. For the quarter, "Tonight" averaged a 0.8 rating, 3 share in adults 18-49 and 3.5 million viewers overall and "Late Night" earned a 0.5/3 in 18-49 and 1.7 million viewers overall.
In every key ratings category -- adults, men and women 18-34, 18-49 and 25-54, plus total viewers -- Jay delivered bigger second-quarter audiences than CBS’s "Late Show with David Letterman" and Jimmy Fallon attracted bigger audiences than "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson."
Jay increased his lead over "Late Show" to an 11 percent margin among adult 18-49 viewers in the second quarter (999,000 vs. 896,000), up from a 4 percent margin in the first quarter. In total viewers, Jay increased his advantage over "Late Show" to 23 percent in the second quarter (3.510 million vs. 2.854 million), up from 16 percent in the first quarter. Jay also beat his margins for the quarter before that, the fourth quarter of 2011, when he trailed "Late Show" in viewers 18-49 and led by 13 percent in total viewers.
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Versus the year-ago second quarter, "Tonight" increased its total-viewer margin over "Late Show" to 23 percent, up from the year-ago advantage of 18 percent.
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The quarter ended with the week of March 18-22, during which "Tonight" averaged a 0.7/3 in 18-49 and 3.4 million viewers overall, and generated the show’s biggest 18-49 audience (954,000) since the week of May 21-25.
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"Tonight" delivered a bigger 18-49 audience than "Late Show" for the 23rd time in 27 weeks while Jimmy Fallon attracted a bigger 18-49 audience than "Late Late Show" for a 30th week in a row.
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Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:18 pm to shutterspeed
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How did "The Tonight Show" climb back to #1 after Dave split from NBC?
Letterman is just not as likable as Leno anymore. He seems like a sour old man or something. he's also just painfully unfunny. Leno isn't all that funny, but...
I don't watch either, but I prefer Leno.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:22 pm to magildachunks
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Letterman is just not as likable as Leno anymore. He seems like a sour old man or something. he's also just painfully unfunny. Leno isn't all that funny, but... I don't watch either, but I prefer Leno.
I never had a problem with Leno, either. It's interesting because the book tries hard to knock Jay and make Dave seem destined for triumph for decades to come.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:33 pm to shutterspeed
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It's interesting because the book tries hard to knock Jay
Because Leno's an a-hole
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:37 pm to saintsfan22
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Because Leno's an a-hole
Howso?
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:39 pm to shutterspeed
I love the headlines Leno does.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:43 pm to shutterspeed
His sandbagging of Conan was pathetic. Dude agreed to step aside. Comes back with the shite Jay Leno show at 9 which destroys the lead-in for not just Conan but NBC affliates local news. Then when Conan struggles to overtake Letterman after just 6 months on the air Jay fricking throws him under the bus and says he could, even though it took him what 2 years to beat Letterman when he first started. If he wanted back in the late night game man up and go to Fox or hell go to ABC and do to Kimmel what you did to Conan, but don't frick over Conan for having the issues he had early on.
This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:47 pm to saintsfan22
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His sandbagging of Conan was pathetic. Dude agreed to step aside. Comes back with the shite Jay Leno show at 9 which destroys the lead-in for not just Conan but NBC affliates local news. Then when Conan struggles to overtake Letterman after just 6 months on the air Jay fricking throws him under the bus and says he could, even though it took him what 2 years to beat Letterman when he first started.
That's why I enjoyed reading the book so much in 2012. Leno got fricked so hard when he originally took over "The Tonight Show" and his response the whole time was to play a good soldier publicly (but play smart behind the scenes) and shrug it off by saying, "It's business."
If you look at his actions within that context, Leno isn't an a-hole--he's a survivor. And Conan seems like the chump.
This post was edited on 7/3/12 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:48 pm to shutterspeed
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Leno got fricked so hard when he originally
How so? (I don't know the history)
What's Conan doing now?
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:49 pm to shutterspeed
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Leno isn't an a-hole--he's a survivor.
Like a rat
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:51 pm to shutterspeed
People still watch these shows?
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:53 pm to Jim Rockford
I watch Kimmel most nights as I post on TD.
Posted on 7/3/12 at 11:58 pm to wegotdatwood
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How so? (I don't know the history)
NBC signed him to a contract that guaranteed Leno "The Tonight Show." When Carson left, Dave (who had been warring with NBC anyway), suddenly decided he wanted the gig. He got pissy when Jay contractually took over and was talked into courting other networks. NBC wanted to keep Letterman so badly that they began behind-the-scenes talks to oust Leno (who was doing well ratings-wise, following the network notes and suggestions, and performing a marathon of affiliate promos). NBC even came right out and told Jay that they didn't know whether he'd still be around in a year--basically relegating him to a lame duck. When it became obvious that NBC was unable to get out of Leno's contract and sign Letterman, Letterman bolted for CBS.
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What's Conan doing now?
Failing on TBS.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 12:03 am to saintsfan22
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Like a rat
Do you really believe that or are you just toting the Stern company line? Is Letterman any more justified for trying to dethrone Leno?
Posted on 7/4/12 at 12:07 am to shutterspeed
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Do you really believe that or are you just toting the Stern company line?
Believe
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Is Letterman any more justified for trying to dethrone Leno?
Letterman hadn't just "retired" from a 17 year run at the Tonight Show when he was trying to get it.
Posted on 7/4/12 at 12:13 am to saintsfan22
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Letterman hadn't just "retired" from a 17 year run at the Tonight Show when he was trying to get it.
So what? Letterman knew that Leno had a contract as a host for "The Tonight Show" and still tried to push him into oncoming traffic.
At least Leno left Conan with the actual "Tonight Show."
ETA: Of course, what's fricking gold in all of this is how NBC could make the same colossal mistake TWICE.
This post was edited on 7/4/12 at 12:15 am
Posted on 7/4/12 at 12:17 am to shutterspeed
Didn't Leno have like a 12-18 month contract when he took over? That's hardly firm, that's pretty much up for grabs. Not exactly the same as Leno knowing 5 years in advance Conan was taking over, but he was nice enough to give him 6 months.
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