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re: What are the least intimidating super-villains?
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:22 pm to Breesus
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:22 pm to Breesus
I agree that the Joker is far more effective as a force of chaos with little or no motivation.
But, see, this makes Ledger's Joker a walk contradiction. He implies that he's an agent of chaos, but he has an incredibly well layed out plan.
Nicholson's Joker, having traumatically lost his sanity, is a much richer character in my opinion. His plan to "make art until someone dies" is both diabolical and zany at the same time. His terror has an insane comedic twist that is appropriate for the Clown Prince of Crime. In the truest since of the word, the Nicholson's Joker is an absurdist villain. There's no rhyme or reason to who he chooses to kill, no purpose, and nothing makes any remote sense, except in his mind.
But, see, this makes Ledger's Joker a walk contradiction. He implies that he's an agent of chaos, but he has an incredibly well layed out plan.
Nicholson's Joker, having traumatically lost his sanity, is a much richer character in my opinion. His plan to "make art until someone dies" is both diabolical and zany at the same time. His terror has an insane comedic twist that is appropriate for the Clown Prince of Crime. In the truest since of the word, the Nicholson's Joker is an absurdist villain. There's no rhyme or reason to who he chooses to kill, no purpose, and nothing makes any remote sense, except in his mind.
This post was edited on 1/18/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:24 pm to Breesus
Nuclearman from Superman 4.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:25 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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the truest since of the word, the Nicholson's Joker is an absurdist villain. There's no rhyme or reason to who he chooses to kill, no purpose, and nothing makes any remote sense, except in his mind
Exactly my argument. That Joker is completely unhinged.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:31 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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Ledger's Joker a walk contradiction. He implies that he's an agent of chaos, but he has an incredibly well layed out plan.
But his only plan is to make the people fall into chaos, he lays out plans well, yes, but they arent all leading to something, he is just going to keep doing intense shite until the people all snap and go nuts. Its real and its intense. His plans and things he did werent all connected or leading to anything or full of hidden motives and schemes. I think was his point in that speech. He just does shite because it's entertaining to him and because he wants to break the collective spirit of the people.
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There's no rhyme or reason to who he chooses to kill, no purpose, and nothing makes any remote sense, except in his mind.
This is why i think he is less intense than Ledger. Ledger's joker wasnt just a crazy person on the loose killing and druging people. He was a fiercely intelligent genius trying to force the city to collapse in on itself with the smallest push possible. He didnt want to kill everyone, he wanted them to kill themselves.
Nicholson's joker, while insane, and without a doubt scary and awesome in his own right, was just less intense for me. He was a lunatic and a madman on the loose that couldnt be stopped.
This post was edited on 1/18/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:32 pm to Breesus
I think my answer is Venom from Spider-Man 3.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 6:34 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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I think my answer is Venom from Spider-Man 3.
I thought about putting that, but this picture:
makes him better than the iron man people. His animation was done well eough, it was the writers and director that made him suck arse.
This post was edited on 1/18/14 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:04 pm to ZacAttack
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least intimidating super-villains?
Penguine. /thread.
I mean c'mon, Danny DeVito in an ill fitting Mardi Gras costume. Lulz........
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:17 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
How about the villain in Catwoman?
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:22 pm to Breesus
Bane is the least intimidating.
Ledger made me laugh and while making me feel guilty for laughing. Makes him the best Joker ever.
Ledger made me laugh and while making me feel guilty for laughing. Makes him the best Joker ever.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:23 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Bane is the least intimidating.
You really think he's less intimidating than Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face?
Posted on 1/18/14 at 7:28 pm to Jazzbass13
Whatever the frick ghost rider 2 villains were
Posted on 1/18/14 at 9:17 pm to Jazzbass13
The mandarin.
BTW, anyone saying the Joker really has no idea what they're talking about.
BTW, anyone saying the Joker really has no idea what they're talking about.
Posted on 1/18/14 at 9:21 pm to Sentrius
mandarin was supposed to be a joke, but even before the plot twist he sucked. spiderman villains?
Posted on 1/18/14 at 9:40 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Awful. He did nothing but growl the whole movie. The Riddler pushed that movie forward. Two Face really didn't do a whole lot.
Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face?
Posted on 1/19/14 at 12:21 am to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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He risked at least 100x more lives than Ledger's Joker.
The whole point of The Joker in The Dark Knight was anarchy. He believed in a world with no rules. He believed that mankind was handicapping its true nature with stupid and archaic laws. The whole point of his character was to prove his theory true: that when the chips were down, everyone would become just as crazy as he was.
When he announced that he planned to blow up a hospital if an ordinary citizen didn't kill a man, the whole city went nuts. As Gordon was trying to smuggle Reese out of the TV studio, Mike Engel - the host of Gotham Tonight - asked if Gordon really believed an ordinary citizen would try to kill Reese. A few moments later, from within the mob going nuts outside, a lone gunman emerged and tried to shoot Reese as they were approaching the front door. This is what Ledger's Joker was going for: chaos.
The Joker in The Dark Knight didn't want to kill everyone, he wanted everyone to kill themselves.
This post was edited on 1/19/14 at 12:22 am
Posted on 1/19/14 at 6:09 am to Jazzbass13
The Vulture? What's so intimidating about an old fart in a bird costume?
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