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re: Westworld SE1 EP7: "Trompe L’Oeil"
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:24 pm to kwalt1989
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:24 pm to kwalt1989
Another hint was the elevator scene when he said he related/understood the hosts more than humans. At first I took it as someone lost in their work but he was relating to his own
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:25 pm to rebel of fortune
Fantastic episode.
can't wait to hear the people who prioritize the newest episode of the 'Big Bang Theory' complain about the plot still going nowhere.
can't wait to hear the people who prioritize the newest episode of the 'Big Bang Theory' complain about the plot still going nowhere.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:26 pm to BugaPainTrain7
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Not in 100 would I have guessed about Bernard....
Is this really a common thought after this episode? This has been speculated since literally episode one.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:27 pm to McCaigBro69
It never once crossed my mind
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:30 pm to McCaigBro69
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This has been speculated since literally episode one.
To be fair a lot of things have been speculated.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:32 pm to Puck82
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To be fair a lot of things have been speculated.
Very true, I guess this is just the first pay off
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:32 pm to McCaigBro69
Yep people have been skeptical of Bernard since the first conversation he had with Ford. It was pretty easy to tell with how Ford could easily change the conversation with Bernard and Bernard would drop it and walk away like nothing happened.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:39 pm to rebel of fortune
So did Bernard actually used to be an employee who ultimately suffered the same fate as Teresa? Surely this isn't the first person Ford/Arnold has done this to.
ETA: And WTF happened to Elsie?
ETA: And WTF happened to Elsie?
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:45 pm to TennesseeFan25
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Really knew that was the path they were going when they gave us his dream to start the episode.
I was pretty convinced all along that Bernard was a host. What I don't know is how many other staff are hosts. I'm beginning to think, now, that all the joking was to throw us off what I thought were obvious tells that Bernard was a host. Just in "The Stray" alone, both Elsie and Thor's brother joked about themselves being hosts.
Now - look at this episode. The demonstration has a "host" programmed to read "as human" - dressing and acting like staff interacting with Clem. So, they send Thor's brother in there to shoot her. They were reluctant to risk a human when they were unsure, but they send a real person in after they KNOW she's homicidal?
Right. There's a deeper level to this game, alright. The "who in the hell is actually a real human being here?" level. Ms. Bernard? Maybe she's human. No real reason to simulate killing a host - just reprogram her.
Hell, I'm not even sure about MiB, Logan or William at this point, or even Ford himself.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:49 pm to Nation of Buga
I don't know if Westworld is gonna go this route but what if Ford can transfer the mind of real people into the host and can control them like the host. What if Ford can legit kill people and recreate them so he can control them. Honestly what if Ford is creating a world that can't tell him no. When will he transfer himself into a host? Ford might go down as one of the most evil characters to be on TV.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:02 pm to rebel of fortune
I'm all but certain William is the MIB after tonight. Question now is why we need to know his backstory and what greater role will he play either in stopping ford or helping to perpetuate what's happening
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:14 pm to prplhze2000
Great episode. I was still on edge even though I knew Bernard being a host was a possibility.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:20 pm to Grits N Shrimp
i would just like to tell everyone who doubted me talking about bernand being fake to blow me
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think most people always recognized it as a possibility
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:24 pm to tylerdurden24
William is the MiB's future son in law.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:27 pm to JuiceTerry
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Bernard being a host has always been speculated. Still not sure he isn't feeling some real consciousness, too, though.
it seems that to create consciousness, it takes host to host contact
which may explain the chats b/w Bernard and Dolores
BUT, i don't think ford wants them to have that, so maybe Arnold got involved. that seems like a stretch
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:30 pm to rebel of fortune
If a host looks and acts and thinks they are a person, and they have their backstory, what's the difference? Besides Ford controls them.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 10:33 pm to tylerdurden24
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I'm all but certain William is the MIB after tonight.
they dropped a ton of hints once again
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