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Watching ROTJ on TNT. Question
Posted on 5/7/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 4:28 pm
How did the Ewoks manage to pre-stage a catapult, a log avalanche and a swinging log sandwich on short notice within a couple hundred feet of a heavily guarded Imperial bunker?
Huge SW fan. Not trying to be a turd. Just another plot hole associated with the Ewoks, the worst thing about the OT.
Huge SW fan. Not trying to be a turd. Just another plot hole associated with the Ewoks, the worst thing about the OT.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 4:32 pm to Scoop
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How did the Ewoks manage to pre-stage a trebuchet, a log avalanche and a swinging log sandwich on short notice within a couple hundred feet of a heavily guarded Imperial bunker?
What led you to believe it was on short notice? The ewoks had been planning a revolt all along. Luke and Leah just managed to convince them to attack when they had the added support of the rebels.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 4:46 pm to kingbob
I'm watching this too. So sad at the end.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 4:59 pm to OliverQueen81
Oh look its Anakin from 2000's
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:03 pm to Scoop
Ewoks were the beginning of the end of Star Wars greatness. A clear money grab for kids toys and cuteness. Ask natives around the Earth's history how it goes facing a civilization with superior technology. And hell we are not talking about bows vs guns but stone age spears vs intergalactic space travel. Simply the Ewoks were dumb arse shite. Oh and I like Star Wars.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:03 pm to Scoop
Imperials were interlopers in the Ewoks' territory. All of that stuff was probably prestaged for defense of the village against any external threat.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:04 pm to 50_Tiger
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Oh look its Anakin from 2000's
I caught the end after the Preds game, and I wanted to ask, how is it possible that Anakin had a force ghost? Didn't they need special training for that?
Not worth starting a thread, since it's probably a dumb question.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:27 pm to ohiovol
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how is it possible that Anakin had a force ghost? Didn't they need special training for that?
No, you become a force ghost when you die if you become completely one with the light side of the force before death. Vader had completely redeemed himself in the end and died while at peace with himself and the force for the very first time, so he became a force ghost.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:33 pm to kingbob
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No, you become a force ghost when you die if you become completely one with the light side of the force before death. Vader had completely redeemed himself in the end and died while at peace with himself and the force for the very first time, so he became a force ghost.
Oh okay. What was Yoda talking to Obi Wan about at the end of ROTS? About Qui Gon?
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:35 pm to ohiovol
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Oh okay. What was Yoda talking to Obi Wan about at the end of ROTS? About Qui Gon?
Qui Gon wasn't purely light side. He was kinda a rebel, stubborn, arrogant, and always conflicted, hence why he disobeyed Yoda with regards to Anakin, and didn't become a force ghost when he died.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:40 pm to kingbob
Should Anakin have disappeared when he died?
Clearly, I don't know how all this works.
Clearly, I don't know how all this works.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 6:17 pm to Tackle74
My resentment for the Ewoks probably wouldn't be so bad were it not for the fact that the original concept was that instead of Ewoks it was supposed to be Wookiees. The rebels being assisted by the Wookiees to defeat the empire makes perfect sense as they were a warrior species with a warrior culture.
Everything is there. The Ewoks live just like it was Kashyyk. Wookiees live up in the trees in shelter networks just the Ewoks in ROTJ. All Lucas did was shrink Wookiees to 3 feet tall in order to have them cute and sell toys.
ROTJ with Wookiees would have been bad arse and made sense. That's why I hate Ewoks.
Everything is there. The Ewoks live just like it was Kashyyk. Wookiees live up in the trees in shelter networks just the Ewoks in ROTJ. All Lucas did was shrink Wookiees to 3 feet tall in order to have them cute and sell toys.
ROTJ with Wookiees would have been bad arse and made sense. That's why I hate Ewoks.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 7:43 pm to ohiovol
nvm
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:36 pm to Scoop
I don't get how Han runs 20 feet before the bunker detonated yet they pull away and the blast had over a mile radius.
Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:43 pm to Scoop
Even as a kid watching I was annoyed with the Ewoks.
Han and Co. were basically wasted in that movie.
Han and Co. were basically wasted in that movie.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:43 am to kingbob
quote:I really thought that Yoda was telling Obi Wan that Qui Gon had learned the trick of being a force ghost, something that few, if any Jedi had done.
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Oh okay. What was Yoda talking to Obi Wan about at the end of ROTS? About Qui Gon?
Qui Gon wasn't purely light side. He was kinda a rebel, stubborn, arrogant, and always conflicted, hence why he disobeyed Yoda with regards to Anakin, and didn't become a force ghost when he died.
Thought that was why Yoda was telling Obi Wan to go become a hermit, when up until that point, it was more in character for him to stay active and involved with combat etc. Kenobi would have been the ideal Rebellion leader, he had the military experience, he knew the Empire's capability and tactics, he was used to being in the center of things, and as leader of the Rebellion, he would have had to stay hidden all the time anyways.
I thought guarding Luke was a bit of an afterthought, his primary task was to learn how to become a Force ghost.
If Anakin knew how to do it, he would have had to have learned it from his teacher, so it would imply that Sidious is also capable of this... which would be an interesting injection into the current trilogy.
That would be a neat twist- Snoke is running the First Order, and is grooming Ren to be his key Dark Side henchman, but Sidious is secretly corrupting and controlling Ren on the side. That would explain why Ren is so fixated on Darth Vader; Sidious is feeding him all sorts of twisted info.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 3:39 am to kingbob
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Qui Gon wasn't purely light side. He was kinda a rebel, stubborn, arrogant, and always conflicted, hence why he disobeyed Yoda with regards to Anakin, and didn't become a force ghost when he died.
This is incorrect. Qui gon mastered the force ghost ability post-mortem. Bc Jedi are connected to the force, they retain a consciousness after death. Qui gon used that to learn this ability (most likely from an ancient Jedi) and speak to Yoda first, then taught it to Obi wan. Obi wan had completed his mastery of it and disappeared when he died (like yoda). Anakin did not disappear when he died, so he had not mastered the ability of force ghost yet. He must have learned it post-mortem from Obi wan
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:15 am to Upperdecker
Since Revenge of the Sith, I've sort of assumed his appearance in ROTJ was an example of a cool scene trumping logic in the story.
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:49 am to ohiovol
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Since Revenge of the Sith, I've sort of assumed his appearance in ROTJ was an example of a cool scene trumping logic in the story.
It doesn't trump logic after yoda saying that qui gon learned to be a force ghost after dying. Until that point it did though
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:24 am to Upperdecker
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qui gon learned to be a force ghost after dying
But he didn't learn to be a Force ghost like Yoda and Kenobi eventually did. Qui-Gon managed to keep his own consciousness separate/"alive" from/within the Force, which was a new thing (if I recall correctly). Yoda then went on a quest, led by Qui-Gon's "voice" to Dagobah, to learn how to become a Force ghost. This is shown in Season 6 of "The Clone Wars" cartoon series, which is canon.
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