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Warner Bros. Eyeing Matthew Vaughn to Direct ‘Man of Steel 2’

Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:54 pm
Warner Bros. Eyeing Matthew Vaughn to Direct ‘Man of Steel 2’

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Sources tell us that Kingsman: The Secret Service filmmaker Matthew Vaughn is Warner Bros.’ top choice to direct Man of Steel 2, and preliminary conversations about the prospect have taken place. This isn’t yet in the deal-making stage, and Vaughn could very well end up not directing the film, but he’s who Warner Bros. wants at this point in time. Moreover, sources tell us that if Vaughn for some reason doesn’t direct Man of Steel 2, Warner Bros. still wants him to helm another superhero movie in the DCEU.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:56 pm to
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Moreover, sources tell us that if Vaughn for some reason doesn’t direct Man of Steel 2, Warner Bros. still wants him to helm another superhero movie in the DCEU.


I'm sure they do, but beggars can't be choosers at this point.
Posted by ChipDouglas2403
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:56 pm to
Solid choice
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 1:57 pm to
In before "nuke it and throw $1.2 trillion at Chris Nolan"
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:02 pm to
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Chris Nolan

i hate to say it, but he's probably the reason the first one sucked so bad.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:03 pm to
That would be a home run, IMO.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Back in 2010, reports surfaced that Vaughn and Kick-arse comic writer Mark Millar had pitched their take on a Superman movie to Warner Bros. only for the studio to (unsurprisingly) go with Nolan and Goyer’s take. Vaughn subsequently clarified he only had a brief chat with WB about making a Superman movie, but he did offer his thoughts on what a Superman film should be, which may give us a hint of what kind of tone Man of Steel 2 would strike if Vaughn takes the helm:

“I think that’s the one thing not to do with Superman, trying to do the serious The Dark Knight version. Superman is about color and fun, or it should be, for me.”


Should please the M/TV board
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:10 pm to
Vaughn would be best case scenario amongst realistic options.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:12 pm to
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i hate to say it, but he's probably the reason the first one sucked so bad.



It's really the misinterpretation of what Nolan was all about that made it so bad. Having seen some behind the scenes in that movie, it's pretty clear Nolan's direct influence was minimal at best. In fact Nolan was very vocally against Superman directly killing Zod, something Snyder and Goyer didn't listen to him on why that was a bad idea.

All they thought was A) Dark is good, B) It needed to be serious, and C) It needed to be the exact opposite of Superman Returns. They thought this is what Nolan represents, but he really doesn't. Nolan has plenty of light and whimsical characters and moments in his movies, none of which are here. Like Superman destroying that guy's truck. That's just incredibly out of character for this guy to do. This is the big difference between the DCEU and Superman as an actual character:



Nolan is just an easy scapegoat because he's known for creating darker serious movies, but Nolan knows when to not make things dark and serious and more whimsical. Snyder and Goyer don't have a clue. I feel Goyer is also heavily blown out of proportion for his help on the Dark Knight Trilogy. I think he just sat on the couch while the Nolan brothers were writing it and just threw out a few lines of dialog that made it into the movie.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:12 pm to
Yes, please.
Vaughn wouldn't approach the Christopher Reeve movies with the same reverence as the Bible (that's what hurt Superman Returns, along with the lack of action and the dumb decision to give Superman a son.) And he has a sense of humor and style, something that hack Zack Snyder lacks.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:15 pm to
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Should please the M/TV board



Yeah, don't get me wrong, I really like Vaughan and think he's really the best case scenario. He knows how to balance fun and seriousness. I'd be thrilled, but if I were Vaughn, I would demand to see the Justice League before signing on. It has to leave me with someplace where I can feasibly recover from the shite that was the first two movies.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:22 pm to
WB's last two franchise movies (Fantastic Beasts and King Kong) were both solid. Now they seem to be eying all the right people to take over DC projects. My faith is starting to grow a little.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:31 pm to
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but if I were Vaughn, I would demand to see the Justice League before signing on. It has to leave me with someplace where I can feasibly recover from the shite that was the first two movies.


I'm not expecting much from JL, the wheels were already in motion before the BvS debacle. WB just needs JL to be somewhat successful and they can just "soft reboot" the whole thing. From what I've read, James Wan and Matt Reeves demanded full control of their properties. They want to make stand alone movies that aren't concerned with setting up future films. I think it's the right way to go, you don't need to do same thing as Marvel.
Posted by Warfarer
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Solid choice


I agree, would be a good get. He is diverse enough to put together a good movie.

My issue is that I don't care for the dark toned superman universe. It works for Batman but Superman just a different style of movie feel. I would be curious if he keeps it monochromatic if he takes the job or just makes good movie.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:38 pm to
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I'm not expecting much from JL,


At this point they may be thinking that they have a good product with Wonder Woman that has built-in audiences with the women's libbers, gay men, lesbians, and little girls all over the world. As long as Patty Jenkins delivers a complete story with at least one colorful reel of film, they should be okay there.

With Justice League they know that they have a good portion of the critics and audience that are poised to savage the film. They're hoping that their worst case scenario is terrible reviews with a box office comparable to BvS. Their best case scenario would be that the movie has enough good visuals and moments to keep some of the critics at bay and push them closer to the billion dollar mark. This is the Madea franchise of superhero films. Even if they gave us the team version of The Dark Knight, critics are going to cut zero slack.

If they get out of 2017 with a good to great response from Wonder Woman and a "that wasn't that bad after all" from Justice League, they can proceed fresh with the crop of movies that weren't in pre-production and production when BvS and Suicide Squad were in the theaters and Snyder was the visionary.

Wan's Aquaman is next, followed by (hopefully) Reeves' Batman, McKay's Nightwing, (Gibson's?) Suicide Squad 2, Ayer's Gotham Sirens, (Vaughn's?) Man of Steel 2 and whatever they decide to do with Flash and Green Lantern Corps. The main red flag in that list is Ayer (due to Suicide Squad), but he'll be making his Harley movie in a different DC universe than the dark plan that Snyder set.


ETA: And I think Snyder's return for Justice League 2 is dependent on the success of JL1. There's an additional year's gap between the two JL films. Warner didn't have that luxury before, with Snyder in pre-production for Justice League as BvS was hitting the theaters.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:58 pm to
better then synder
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:13 pm to
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i hate to say it, but he's probably the reason the first one sucked so bad.



Nolan is the best and worst thing to ever happen to DC Comics and Warner Bros.

They completely misread why Nolan's vision and style worked so well with a gritty and shadowy character like Batman and mistakenly thought his style was a one size fits all approach for all comic book characters.

They didn't understand that Nolan's vision was narrowly tailored for dark characters that could fit into a "real world" of sorts.

Thinking that approach could fit a god like character full of color and joy like Superman is one the biggest and most catastrophic frick ups ever in Hollywood history.

It's a god damn shame DC didn't realize this before they green lighted Justice League right after they saw the shite Snyder called Batman v Superman.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:19 pm to
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And I think Snyder's return for Justice League 2 is dependent on the success of JL1.


No.

frick that.

Snyder is absolutely the reason numero uno why DC and Warner Bros is in the mess they are with the shitty universe they have right now and having trouble attracting good directors and on screen talent to put it nicely.

Snyder is a talentless fat hack and he has to go after Justice League is done. He deserves absolutely no benefit of the doubt and has proven he cannot be trusted at all with beloved characters like Superman and Batman.

You were doing so well until this line.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108446 posts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:50 pm to
I've just thought of something: has Superman done one single act of kindness so far in the Snyder movies? Have we ever seen him helping getting supplies to an orphanage or helping out someone who has had a bad day? The only time I think was when his dad was blown away by a tornado. Anything else he has done any sane man would do and not an act of kindness. Just compare Superman in this to basically the opening 10 minutes of The Incredibles. Seriously, where's any of that good nature of Superman on display, which is certainly where they got the idea from in that movie?

Hell, Nolan's trilogy gets Batman's noble integrity right. Instead with Superman it's all about him and how he's inherently better than us due to his sheer biology. They just shower Superman with Jesus imagery in this movie about how we should all aspire to be like him, when really he's just an a-hole who wants to maintain world order around himself. How is this any different than what the actual Lex Luthor would do with Superman's powers?

When you boil it down, that's the only reason I can think of that Clark has a beef with Batman in this movie. How dare he try to do his job for him by punishing criminals! At least Batman had a legit bone to pick with Superman.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:02 pm to
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I've just thought of something: has Superman done one single act of kindness so far in the Snyder movies?


There was a deleted scene in the BvS directors cut where Superman was helping capital bombing victims to ambulances and the EMTs waiting for them there.

That's about it.

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Instead they just shower Superman with Jesus imagery in this movie about how we should all aspire to be like him, when really he's just an a-hole who wants to maintain world order around himself. When you boil it down, that's the only reason I can think of that Clark has a beef with Batman in this movie. How dare he try to do his job for him by punishing criminals! At least Batman had a legit bone to pick with Superman.



Yep.

Snyder's Superman sucks arse. He shits all over everything that makes Superman the greatest hero in history. He might as well be a more tame version of Justice Lord Superman.

It's such a goddamn waste of Henry Cavill who honestly looks perfect in the role. At least he will make a great Kingdom Come Superman when he gets into his 40s and Snyder is no longer associated with the character.
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