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True Romance - Who would've been the better director? Tony Scott or Tarantino?
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:03 am
In my opinion, Tony Scott did an amazing job directing True Romance. Personally, I consider it a classic that has so far stood the test of time. Scott directed it with a style that (I believe) made Tarantino proud. Tony Scott was faithful to the tone of the script.
You can tell within the first 15 minutes that the movie was written by Tarantino. The unique dialogue structure immediately gives that away. But, if one fails to recognize the Tarantino-esque dialogue from the opening scene in the bar, the Sicilian/Moor/Eggplant scene should be a dead give-a-way.
In my opinion, an unwitting person could mistake the movie as having been directed by Tarantino himself...and that's a good thing. There are very few directors who could take on a Tarantino script and be faithful to both Tarantino's style and their own style at the same time.
Tony Scott accomplished that because while the movie is faithful to Tarantino's flair, it has Tony Scott's style written all over it too.
A person familiar with Tony Scott films will immediately recognize his style: Neon lit love scene emphasizing dark silhouette of characters, music choice, over the top action sequences, large sunsets, etc.
It's not hard to imagine the Top Gun story taking place in the True Romance world. When Clarence and Alabama escape the final showdown where nearly everyone is shot and killed, the scene shifts from the hotel to the highway to show Alabama driving the car with Clarence resting his wounded head on her shoulder. They're attempting to make their way to Mexico.
It isn't a stretch to imagine that at any moment a fighter jet may fly over that highway (especially considering Coronado Island isn't far from this particular setting), the camera pan away from the car to film the jet swoop up into the sky framed by oversized sunset in the background just as Kenny Loggins music cues the credits.
Is there a certain cheese factor to consider with Tony Scott films? Sure. No doubt.
Regardless, are his films full of badassery? Absolutely.
And that is exactly why Tarantino would approve.
You can tell within the first 15 minutes that the movie was written by Tarantino. The unique dialogue structure immediately gives that away. But, if one fails to recognize the Tarantino-esque dialogue from the opening scene in the bar, the Sicilian/Moor/Eggplant scene should be a dead give-a-way.
In my opinion, an unwitting person could mistake the movie as having been directed by Tarantino himself...and that's a good thing. There are very few directors who could take on a Tarantino script and be faithful to both Tarantino's style and their own style at the same time.
Tony Scott accomplished that because while the movie is faithful to Tarantino's flair, it has Tony Scott's style written all over it too.
A person familiar with Tony Scott films will immediately recognize his style: Neon lit love scene emphasizing dark silhouette of characters, music choice, over the top action sequences, large sunsets, etc.
It's not hard to imagine the Top Gun story taking place in the True Romance world. When Clarence and Alabama escape the final showdown where nearly everyone is shot and killed, the scene shifts from the hotel to the highway to show Alabama driving the car with Clarence resting his wounded head on her shoulder. They're attempting to make their way to Mexico.
It isn't a stretch to imagine that at any moment a fighter jet may fly over that highway (especially considering Coronado Island isn't far from this particular setting), the camera pan away from the car to film the jet swoop up into the sky framed by oversized sunset in the background just as Kenny Loggins music cues the credits.
Is there a certain cheese factor to consider with Tony Scott films? Sure. No doubt.
Regardless, are his films full of badassery? Absolutely.
And that is exactly why Tarantino would approve.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:19 am
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:05 am to mizzoukills
It's funny... I JUST watched this movie for the first time yesterday. And the only reason I watched it was because I heard the soundtrack (I listen to Hans Zimmer on Pandora).
Great damn movie!
Great damn movie!
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:10 am to mizzoukills
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In my opinion, Tony Scott did an amazing job directing True Romance.
Could have "/thread" right there.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:10 am to mizzoukills
There's actually a YouTube video with QT talking about his version would've been slightly different. According to him, some of the scenes would've been in a different order.
Found it LINK
The original non linear storyline
Found it LINK
The original non linear storyline
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:11 am to Ace Midnight
Ace Midnight
Thanks for your incredibly valuable contribution to the thread.
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Could have "/thread" right there.
Thanks for your incredibly valuable contribution to the thread.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:14 am to GCTiger11
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There's actually a YouTube video with QT talking about his version would've been slightly different. According to him, some of the scenes would've been in a different order.
I'd like to either hear or read his opinion on the film. Of course his movie would've been different.
However, I find it refreshing to watch another director's interpretation of one of his scripts. It gives you a perspective on how unique Tarantino scripts are when compared to other screenwriters when you can identify a Tarantino story in a non-Tarantino directed film.
It shows you just how strong his scripts are.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:16 am
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:18 am to GCTiger11
GCTiger11
Do you think the Tarantino non-linear approach would've been better than the Tony Scott approach. I know...that question is nearly impossible to answer without Tarantino actually redirecting the movie as a remake (which could happen at some point in the future, especially considering Scott is dead).
I think his approach would make the movie too much like Pulp Fiction.
IMO, Tony Scott did it right the first time.
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The original non linear storyline
Do you think the Tarantino non-linear approach would've been better than the Tony Scott approach. I know...that question is nearly impossible to answer without Tarantino actually redirecting the movie as a remake (which could happen at some point in the future, especially considering Scott is dead).
I think his approach would make the movie too much like Pulp Fiction.
IMO, Tony Scott did it right the first time.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:22 am to GCTiger11
Tarantino is better with the source material than he is directing the final product, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction notwithstanding, IMHO.
Tony Scott was not without flaws, but, other than The Last Boy Scout (which almost ended his, Bruce Willis' and Damon Wayans' careers) - he never really directed a disaster.
Cheese fit the story for True Romance as it did Top Gun, but Tony did a wonderful job, without much cheese in more character-centered pieces like Crimson Tide and Man on Fire (both with Denzel).
Tarantino, although he's matured quite a bit since RD - I don't necessarily think it has been for the better - Jackie Brown and Kill Bill were okay, and I really enjoyed Inglorious Basterds, but his last great movie was Pulp Fiction (I passed on Django, so I know this is up for debate)- 20 years ago when he was in his early 30s - he's 51 now.
Tony Scott was not without flaws, but, other than The Last Boy Scout (which almost ended his, Bruce Willis' and Damon Wayans' careers) - he never really directed a disaster.
Cheese fit the story for True Romance as it did Top Gun, but Tony did a wonderful job, without much cheese in more character-centered pieces like Crimson Tide and Man on Fire (both with Denzel).
Tarantino, although he's matured quite a bit since RD - I don't necessarily think it has been for the better - Jackie Brown and Kill Bill were okay, and I really enjoyed Inglorious Basterds, but his last great movie was Pulp Fiction (I passed on Django, so I know this is up for debate)- 20 years ago when he was in his early 30s - he's 51 now.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:27 am to mizzoukills
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I think his approach would make the movie too much like Pulp Fiction.
Well TR was released before PF, but he also did it already with Reservoir Dogs.
I prefer Scott's version and think it's perfect the way it was.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:37 am to mizzoukills
it is long past over due for a Drexyl Spivey movie. a pre-quel to true romance would have been greatness
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:38 am to GCTiger11
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I think his approach would make the movie too much like Pulp Fiction.
What I meant by that was if Tarantino was to remake the film today, I think it would be too much like Pulp Fiction and many would sigh because they'd feel that it had been done before (ie. Pulp Fiction).
If Tarantino would've chosen to direct the movie himself, it would've been hailed as his greatest work and today we'd credit True Romance, not Pulp Fiction, as the movie that launched Tarantino and his unique style to stardom.
I read an article that mentioned that Tony Scott read both scripts for True Romance and Reservoir Dogs and he wanted to direct both movies. Tarantino agreed to let Scott direct one and Tarantino would direct the other. Tarantino gave Scott the choice.
Scott chose True Romance.
Personally I think that script fit Scott's style better anyhow.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:41 am to mizzoukills
It's perfect with Scott directing. I think Tarantino 's directing style would have taken away from the story.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:45 am to mizzoukills
According the the FAQ section on IMDB for True Romance, it would have been a much different movie if Tarantino had directed it. It would have had out of order chronology like Pulp Fiction, and Clarence would have died at the end.
I liked it the way that it was, and I'm not sure how I would have reacted if it had been done the "Tarantino" way. In retrospect, all that stuff seems like it would be distracting and too much extra stuff for the movie to flow correctly. However, I can't really say that with any certainty since we will never see exactly how it would have come out differently.
I liked it the way that it was, and I'm not sure how I would have reacted if it had been done the "Tarantino" way. In retrospect, all that stuff seems like it would be distracting and too much extra stuff for the movie to flow correctly. However, I can't really say that with any certainty since we will never see exactly how it would have come out differently.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:50 am to mizzoukills
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the Sicilian/Moor/Eggplant scene should be a dead give-a-way.
One of the greatest dialogue driven scenes in movie history.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:51 am to mizzoukills
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When Clarence and Alabama escape the final showdown
not in the script btw, well at least half of them. i wouldve been ok with clarence not surviving and alabama having his baby etc. but the ending they went with was more hollywood and i didn't think it took away from the film.
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Do you think the Tarantino non-linear approach would've been better than the Tony Scott approach
i don't know how tarantino approached the storyline (whether it was linear or not) but it absolutely was better in the final cut. clarence and alabama's relationship grows as the story progresses. it's a huge part of the story.
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It would have had out of order chronology like Pulp Fiction, and Clarence would have died at the end.
shite i missed this my bad.
i definitely like the linear approach to this film. it's essential to view alabama and clarence growing as shite starts to happen to them.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:56 am
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:54 am to supatigah
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ng past over due for a Drexyl Spivey movie
i can get behind this
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:56 am to CAD703X
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ng past over due for a Drexyl Spivey movie
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i can get behind this
i'll wait for it like i waited for a vega bros movie.
but it would be cool.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:59 am to Ace Midnight
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Tony Scott was not without flaws, but, other than The Last Boy Scout (which almost ended his, Bruce Willis' and Damon Wayans' careers) - he never really directed a disaster.
that movie was cheesy fun and quotable as hell
Posted on 7/24/14 at 1:23 pm to Ace Midnight
Jackie Brown was no just ok. It's a great one
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:00 pm to Thurber
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Jackie Brown was no just ok. It's a great one
In all fairness, I did like it - it just didn't quite have the pop of Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs - and honestly, other than Inglorious Basterds - I've never had the itch to rewatch any of the others (other than the aforementioned Pulp Fiction, which I've seen at least 2 dozen times and Reservoir Dogs about 4 or 5 times.)
ETA: And I've watched True Romance at least 3 or 4 times.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 2:01 pm
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