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re: To Kill a Mockingbird
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:23 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Posted on 3/9/15 at 9:23 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Another found Harper Lee manuscript of Scout and Atticus, Go Set a Watchman will be published this July.
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The novel follows an adult Scout Finch who travels from New York to Maycomb, Alabama, to visit her father, Atticus Finch, twenty years after the events of To Kill a Mockingbird. According to the publisher, Scout "is forced to grapple with issues both personal and political as she tries to understand her father's attitude toward society, and her own feelings about the place where she was born and spent her childhood." Go Set a Watchman includes many of the characters from To Kill a Mockingbird.
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:13 am to DragginFly
I'm not to optimistic about Go Set a Watchman. Some things are just better left alone.
Probably little doubt someone is "abusing" their relationship with Lee now that her sister is dead.
Probably little doubt someone is "abusing" their relationship with Lee now that her sister is dead.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:17 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Not only a great movie made from a great book - one of the most faithful adaptations in film history. That book and movie can almost be considered the Uncle Tom's Cabin of the 1960s Civil Rights movement, as well.
To this day, it is prohibited for Louisiana Bar Exam takers to use "Atticus Finch" as their fictious name (if you fail - if you pass, they publish your real name... eventually
).
To this day, it is prohibited for Louisiana Bar Exam takers to use "Atticus Finch" as their fictious name (if you fail - if you pass, they publish your real name... eventually
). 
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:19 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Gregory Peck, and the Girl who played Scout. Two of the all time great performances. I wish I could see a movie like that again.
Plus
Plus
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I may not be much, Mr. Finch, but I'm still sheriff of Maycomb County and Bob Ewell fell on his knife. Good night, sir."
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:23 am to Ace Midnight
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Not only a great movie made from a great book - one of the most faithful adaptations in film history. That book and movie can almost be considered the Uncle Tom's Cabin of the 1960s Civil Rights movement, as well.
Book was never supposed to be about Civil Rights. Movie was.
The book was about Atticus. The trial subplot was four chapters or so.
Book took place over three years.
ETA: having said that, it was the perfect story to be made into a Civil Rights movie.
This post was edited on 3/9/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/9/15 at 10:23 am to crash1211
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Girl who played Scout.
Mary Badham - no acting experience, nominated for an Oscar for this film at 10 years old - loses to 16-year old Patty Duke (the fat hobbit's mom), has one other film credit.
Left Hollywood like a boss.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:36 am to magildachunks
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Book was never supposed to be about Civil Rights
Harper Lee said that?
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:55 am to Big Scrub TX
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Harper Lee said that?
Of course not - it's not only about that. I mean, it is semi-autobiographical - assuming Harper even wrote the thing (and even if Capote actually wrote it, it was Harper's story, regardless) - Scout is based heavily on her, Dill on Truman Capote and Atticus on Harper Lee's father.
The best stories come from a place of truth.
Even if not explicit, civil rights and the treatment of blacks under the law in the South in the pre-war era was a constant theme in the book.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:59 am to Ace Midnight
That's what I thought. What a ridiculous claim: "book was never supposed to be about civil rights".
Posted on 3/9/15 at 2:17 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What a ridiculous claim: "book was never supposed to be about civil rights".
And while I accept that it was not overtly a "civil rights text" - the subtext of it is omnipresent in the novel. Ultimately it is about a longforgotten aspect of this - the necessity of white involvement for there to be any change at all. When white opinion (North, South, East and West) was consensus that blacks were inferior, it took a few dissenting white folks to generate any sort of movement in the right direction.
When one looks at how carefully the public image of Joe Louis, for example, was protected (his private life was a shambles, multiple women, terrible business decisions, just bad with money), to the selection of Jackie Robinson - a black player who was most acceptable to white baseball fans at the time (I'm a huge fan of Jackie Robinson, but it was not widely publicized, at least at the time he was historically called up from the minors, that he had led a civil rights protest, himself, while in uniform in the U.S. Army, shortly before Truman integrated the U.S. military).
But it was those few influential white folks (like the fictional Atticus Finch) that started to turn the tide in the 30s, 40s, 50s, in cooperation with black civil rights leaders.
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Posted on 3/9/15 at 2:36 pm to Ace Midnight
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Ultimately it is about a longforgotten aspect of this - the necessity of white involvement for there to be any change at all. When white opinion (North, South, East and West) was consensus that blacks were inferior, it took a few dissenting white folks to generate any sort of movement in the right direction.
Really? That seems like an incredibly obvious and assumed point to me. When one race holds all the power, unless there is a literally armed coups of some sort (which everyone knows there was not), then clearly something must be acceded.
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When one looks at how carefully the public image of Joe Louis, for example, was protected (his private life was a shambles, multiple women, terrible business decisions, just bad with money), to the selection of Jackie Robinson - a black player who was most acceptable to white baseball fans at the time (I'm a huge fan of Jackie Robinson, but it was not widely publicized, at least at the time he was historically called up from the minors, that he had led a civil rights protest, himself, while in uniform in the U.S. Army, shortly before Truman integrated the U.S. military).
Rosa Parks was also "curated" by the civil rights establishment. Two other model plaintiffs were considered, as they had been arrested for the same offense months before Parks. However, true to the "politics of respectability" cast upon black folks hoping to gain anything, those two were dismissed for reasons that seem ridiculously anodyne in arrears (e.g. Mary Louise Smith's father was thought to be an alcoholic.)
Posted on 3/9/15 at 2:44 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Really? That seems like an incredibly obvious and assumed point to me.
I agree that is should be obvious. The anti-white rhetoric appears to draw more from the Malcolm X/NOI side of the movement, than the MLK "content of their character" side, but perhaps that is just what the media sells.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 2:48 pm to Ace Midnight
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The anti-white rhetoric
Posted on 3/9/15 at 2:51 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Big Scrub TX
This cannot be a surprise - just as often as you guys get lumped in with all the gangbangers and the cats that just robbed the 7-11, I get lumped in with slaveowners from 150 years ago.
Atticus is a counterpoint to that.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 2:55 pm to Ace Midnight
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This cannot be a surprise - just as often as you guys get lumped in with all the gangbangers and the cats that just robbed the 7-11, I get lumped in with slaveowners from 150 years ago.
Do they have a double-confused emoticon? I really have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 3:10 pm to Ace Midnight
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Atticus is a counterpoint to that.
Atticus was forced to represent the black guy.
He turned it down because there was no chance to win and he didn't want his kids to be harassed and to go through what they ended up going through.
Judge assigned him to the case because Atticus was the only guy who would make sure he got good representation.
Basically, Atticus didn't do it because he believed in civil rights or to make a grand gesture. He did it because he "always did what needed to be done".
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