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The Slow Death of Redbox: Why the Kiosk Colossus Is the Next Blockbuster
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:41 pm
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In November 2007, Redbox had exciting news: Its brick-red DVD vending machines were in more locations nationwide than industry leader Blockbuster.
“Redbox offers a level of service and convenience that our competitors simply can’t provide,” Redbox founder and then-CEO Gregg Kaplan said at the time, boasting of the company’s 6,000th automated kiosk installation.
Today, Blockbuster is essentially dead, living on as a token brand name under Dish Network. Kaplan is now a partner with Pritzker Group Private Capital. And Redbox — with its parent company, Outerwall, still making healthy profits on relatively cheap DVD rentals of new releases — is shrinking, ultimately destined for the same fate as its erstwhile foe.
“It’s a certainty that at some point consumers will no longer be renting movies out of Redbox kiosks,” says Piper Jaffray analyst Michael Olson. “It could be five years from now or 15 years from now. But at this point, it’s about managing the decline.”
Redbox’s revenue for the fourth quarter of 2015 dropped 17%, to $407 million, as movie rentals plunged 24% year over year. For 2016, Outerwall expects Redbox rentals to decline 15%-20%, and the company plans to remove up to 2,000 underperforming kiosks after ending last year with 40,480.
Outerwall blamed a variety of factors for Redbox’s ongoing woes. Those included “successive quarters of weak content” and the effect of price hikes enacted in December 2014, which increased the daily rental rate for standard DVDs from $1.20 to $1.50.
But the fundamental factor pushing Redbox downward is that people are increasingly consuming entertainment on digital outlets like Netflix, Hulu, iTunes, Amazon, Comcast and other pay-TV ops rather than via DVD. Just as Redbox hastened Blockbuster’s demise, the kiosk operator is losing share to services that offer more convenience, value and selection — with instant viewing across multiple devices.
“We are facing challenges from changes in the marketplace and how consumers access content in various formats,” Outerwall CEO Erik Prusch acknowledged on the company’s earnings call this month. “Levers that worked in the past, such as investing in more content or certain marketing promotions, are no longer sufficient as a counterweight.”
Investors have punished Outerwall’s stock, pushing it to a six-year low of $27.04 per share on Feb. 6 after the company’s weaker-than-expected 2016 outlook for Redbox. Some analysts believe the reaction is overwrought, arguing that Redbox has a sustainable position with its broad network and low-cost model. Movie titles are available on Redbox at some 33,000 locations, including Walgreens, Walmart, Kroger and 7-Eleven stores, typically 28 days after release on disc and digital sell-through, and before they hit subscription services like Netflix.
Short of piracy, there’s no less expensive way to watch, say, Disney’s “Bridge of Spies,” 20th Century Fox’s “The Martian” or Sony’s “Hotel Transylvania 2” than an overnight rental from a Redbox machine.
“There’s a big delta between a buck fifty for a Redbox DVD and $6 or $7 for (a new release rental on) VOD,” says Eric Wold, an analyst with B. Riley & Co. “It’s going to be a huge cash-generating company for quite a while.” Wold maintains a “buy” rating on Outerwall stock.
Indeed, despite lower sales, Redbox posted an operating profit of $255.9 million for full-year 2015. The unit’s operating margin was 14.5% last year — up from 13.6% the year earlier and 13.1% in 2013.
Redbox has raised fees only twice in 13 years, and Wold suggested the operator has some pricing power that would allow it to further boost revenue per rental. “Movie theaters raise prices every year,” he noted.
Outerwall’s Prusch, on the earnings call, said Redbox is testing higher price points, but didn’t provide details. “We’re going to continue to look at price as one of the levers that we have with the business,” he said. In Q4, net revenue per Redbox rental was $2.98, compared with $2.73 in Q4 2014.
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
The free market is a cruel beautiful mistress
I didn't know that block buster was still technically Alive so that was interesting
I didn't know that block buster was still technically Alive so that was interesting
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
everything in that industry is a cycle. Eventually Netflix will go the way of the dinosaur too.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
I don't know if we can call it the next "Blockbuster". Red Box kiosks were in full swing during the steaming era and never really had a heyday.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:08 pm to Tactical1
It's still cheaper than renting online
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:35 pm to RLDSC FAN
Their selection is usually pretty shitty, I say get rid of them and bring back Blockbuster
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
People are lazy and don't want to go out of their way to go to a Redbox when they can just go home and have something easily accessible to watch on their TV.
Plus screw waiting for the retards ahead of you at a Redbox that have no idea how to work it or have to browse through every movie title.
Plus screw waiting for the retards ahead of you at a Redbox that have no idea how to work it or have to browse through every movie title.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:23 pm to hg
I typically want to spend as little time as possible standing in front of the neighborhood corner store, which is usually a requirement for using Redbox.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:25 pm to hg
I'd rather pay 1.50 and pick up a movie from one of the 15 red box kiosks with a mile of my house than pay 5 to rent from my cable company. I rarely have any problems. I always reserve ahead of time and just pick up in the way home from work or dinner.
Cut the cable movie rental prices in half and I might consider.
Cut the cable movie rental prices in half and I might consider.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:35 pm to wildtigercat93
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The free market is a cruel beautiful mistress
I didn't know that block buster was still technically Alive so that was interesting
LINK
Blockbuster executives, along with others in the industry might have made huge mistakes, but this video rental business is still around and doing fairly well.
Family Video is the prime example of a well run business with exceptional owners.
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Now the largest rental chain belongs to Hoogland. Family Video has about 780 locations in the U.S. and Canada, mostly at busy intersections and on high-traffic thoroughfares where the locals can’t miss it.
Hoogland uses low prices and forgiving late-return policies to build a loyal base of customers who live within three miles of a store. While Blockbuster charged nearly $5 for new releases, Family Video’s cost $2.59. Kids get free movies for A’s on their report cards, and a handful of videos are free to everybody.
“We’ve always been the cheapest guy,” he says.
And let’s not forget that, for plenty of Americans, particularly those born in the 1970s or before, trekking to the video store is still the preferred way to seek a night’s entertainment.
I've actually thought about starting a video rental place. It's a niche market now, but still has potential.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:58 pm to RLDSC FAN
With Apple tv and a fire stick the only time I even consider redbox is when heading out on a car trip with the kids.. The death spiral of dvd will be slow but it's coming.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:27 pm to RLDSC FAN
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“There’s a big delta between a buck fifty for a Redbox DVD and $6 or $7 for (a new release rental on) VOD,” says Eric Wold, an analyst with B. Riley & Co. “It’s going to be a huge cash-generating company for quite a while.” Wold maintains a “buy” rating on Outerwall stock.
Yea. Today.
That delta will continue to shrink year after year. Probably within the next few years, the savings of going to a redbox will not be worth leaving your house twice to rent one movie.
Idk how someone could even begin to think of investing in an entertainment company that delivers their product using a physical medium. This dude probably had Blockbuster as a "Buy" up until shite hit the fan for them.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:29 pm to whodidthat
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I've actually thought about starting a video rental place. It's a niche market now, but still has potential.
Yeah if you're rich and retired looking for a hobby.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:30 pm to dawgfan24348
Red box sucks. I hate seeing a commercial for a movie hitting DVD and role to the redbox only to see its coming in 28 days. I'm all for bringing back blockbuster!
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
i only pick up a red box film if i'm in the grocery store or have a free promo code.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:33 pm to whodidthat
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I've actually thought about starting a video rental place. It's a niche market now, but still has potential.
A niche market that's been filled by libraries.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:35 pm to Rize
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Red box sucks. I hate seeing a commercial for a movie hitting DVD and role to the redbox only to see its coming in 28 days. I'm all for bringing back blockbuster!
Room is coming to redbox March 1st. I saw that that movie in theaters a couple of weeks ago.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:50 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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It's still cheaper than renting online
My time is worth more than the money I would save by going to get a movie and bringing it back.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:10 am to RLDSC FAN
Physical stuff and DVDs is dead.
Everything is online and streaming...Apple TV and download-able. Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, itunes, pirate sites.
Except for cinephiles, there's no reason to have DVDs or Blu-ray but to own them and usually for special editions, re-mastered and extra features.
Like the way of terrestrial TV - so goes the way of movies.
(And as has been mentioned, libraries now have tons and tons of free DVDs and movies in all genres and keep getting updated with donations. It's not just old movies, good libraries are pretty up to date...with movies that just come out on DVD.)
Everything is online and streaming...Apple TV and download-able. Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, itunes, pirate sites.
Except for cinephiles, there's no reason to have DVDs or Blu-ray but to own them and usually for special editions, re-mastered and extra features.
Like the way of terrestrial TV - so goes the way of movies.
(And as has been mentioned, libraries now have tons and tons of free DVDs and movies in all genres and keep getting updated with donations. It's not just old movies, good libraries are pretty up to date...with movies that just come out on DVD.)
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 1:15 am
Posted on 2/18/16 at 6:33 am to RLDSC FAN
I'm not sure why but I often find myself missing going to the video store and grabbing a few movies to watch over the weekend. It was very cathartic.
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