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re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012

Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:40 pm to
I'm sure we'll be getting more of it Saturday.
Posted by Supravol22
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 12:26 pm to
Episode 90 synopsis has Gohan "surpassing" Goku apparently... should be awesome
Posted by TukaTuka
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 1:01 pm to
It says Gohan wants to surpass his Father not that he will and if he does than that would be awful writing.

Gohan lost to Piccolo in episode 88 and you are telling me he is going to go from his current power level which is weaker than Base Form Goku to being on par with Super Saiyan Blue Goku, all that in 9 hours? That would be complete BS
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 4:52 pm to
Ha, so many great bits from DBZ Abridged on Piccolo being a father figure to Gohan.

I hate how much they try to push Gohan as the strongest when he barely seems to care about being strong. Goku and Vegeta are much better as leads than any of the other supporting characters.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 5:52 pm to
watching just the dubs of Super is really challenging. why the hell did they decide to adapt the two movies into sagas and then make them into so many pointless episodes. its been painstakingly boring so far.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:46 pm to
well, android 17 inexplicably got stronger from being a ranger on some remote island.

Goku defeated the whole Red Ribbon Army when he was 12. He did not have a power level of a billion or whatever 17 has.
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:30 pm to
Supposedly, he is a super human and has been training on his own for the past 11 years or so. Even then, it's still pretty ridiculous that he's so strong now.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:47 pm to
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I hate how much they try to push Gohan as the strongest when he barely seems to care about being strong.
the way I see it, is Gohan will always be the strongest based on his ceiling. his emotion can push him past Goku at any time. They fricking spent 2/3 of Z showing us this.
Posted by TukaTuka
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:48 pm to
Powerscaling in super is absolute trash.

17 is still part human , training like a maniac still shouldn't allow him to be on par with SSB Goku

Krillin was holding up against Goku's Kamehameha

Gohan in 9 hours with Piccollo goes from being weaker than he was in the Cell games to now being on par with Goku

Its lazy writing
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:11 pm to
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Powerscaling in super is absolute trash


Dude, its been trash since the Namek saga. Hell, its been broken since they introduced the idea of power levels through Raditz, Vegeta, and Nappa.

Plus, watching those episodes, I never once thought Goku was going anywhere near 100%, Toriyama gave off the distinct impression Goku was sandbagging everything.

Either that or they are trying to show us how strong the others are, so we aren't surprised when they fight well in the tournament.
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:03 pm to
I was reading an article a week or two ago that described the way Super Saiyan Blue works. Just because Goku is using Super Saiyan Blue doesn't mean he's even using the full power of a Super Saiyan. He just has much more control over his power and abilities. Could explain some of it, but we still don't know how strong anybody really is.
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Posted on 5/2/17 at 11:43 pm to
From my understanding, SSB is pen point fo us of ki. This means Goku has adjust his ki to know exactly how strong the others are. That is why someone like Krillan can hold his own against Goku.

Power scale is crap in almost all anime. Dragonball was just stupid enough to put a number on it. In all anime, hero fights bad guy and starts to lose, then gets a power boost, and barely wins. Then next ememy just so happens to be stronger than that amazing power and rinse/repeat.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:41 am to
Frieza definitely killed it though.

Frieza's final form at 50% was 60,000,000 (iirc). This was 600 times stronger than Captian Ginyu. Ginyu was around 10 times stronger than Vegeta in the Saiyan saga. Vegeta was more than 10 times stronger than Raditz.

Frieza was 60,000 times stronger than Raditz. Goku fought Frieza about 2 years after he fought Raditz.

Posted by freeagent
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 12:42 pm to
I just excited to see Gohan get back at it.. looking forward to that Picollo / Gohan combo move
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:20 pm to
why can't Goku teach anyone else Instant Transmission? Seems like a helpful ability to have when the universe is on the line.

Hell, why not bring people to Yardat to learn it if he is a bad teacher?

I know Goku learns stuff really quickly and it still took him a year (but Vegeta did learn the Destructo Disk after only seeing it used twice)

Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:50 pm to
Trunks learned the Evil Containment Wave in 5 minutes from a a cell phone video, yes, others should be able to use instant transmission, but I think those are "Goku" powers and no one else can us them, except maybe Gohan.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:04 pm to
hmm, can Fat Buu use Instant Transmission?

I know Kid Buu could. But was that an evil Buu only thing?
Posted by ThoseGuys
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 4:32 pm to
Fat Buu separated from Evil Buu before he learned Instant Transmission. So as far as I know, he can not use the technique.

As far as the others, I seriously don't get why they don't learn each other's more useful attacks. The Distructo Disc hurt Freeza despite Krillin being vastly outmatched. Why someone else didn't use it as well is just odd.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:44 pm to
so Master Roshi literally tried to rape a girl in the new episode of DBS
Posted by bigpetedatiga
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:52 pm to
seems that way...
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