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The Natural - Questions - Spoilers

Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:01 pm
What did Hobbs mean when he said to Memo (Kim B.) "You're right, we have met before?"

Also, when he's at dinner with Gus, Memo and Max Mercy, Gus said he once bet 100k on 3 pitches, he lost but he ruined the guy the next week.

Was Gus the one that had Roy shot?
Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
748 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:04 pm to
1. He was comparing her to Harriet Bird. The Women who shot him.
2. Gus meant he won a different bet against he same guy. Gus didn't have Roy shot.

And spoiler, in the book he takes the money and whiffs.....
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34905 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

And spoiler, in the book he takes the money and whiffs.....




"Say it ain't so, Roy!"

Thank God someone spoiled this for me before I read it. I would have thrown that fricking book across the room.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 1:14 pm to
OK. Hell of a coincidence because Max was playing umpire when he went against The Whammer and he was adamant about only 3 pitched balls.

Then Gus said the next week he ruined (Roy was certainly ruined the next week) him. And Max and Gus were all sitting at the table together.
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3334 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:44 pm to
Good questions and answers.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:09 pm to
My interpretation is gus had roy shot way back when.

The chick from the beginning was used the same way memo is used. Hence why roy said he met her before.

This is one where the movie was better than the book
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3902 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:27 pm to
I assumed the woman who shot Roy was a serial killer who had already killed two other famous athletes. Or I guess she could have been inspired by those other murders. They were in an article in the newspaper on the train (IIRC). She would have killed The Whammer (or tried to) had Roy not struck him out.

I never understood why she killed herself nor why that led to Roy's exile.
Posted by diablo blanco
Oakdale, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
1081 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:15 pm to
Max Mercy penned a story to make it appear Roy was involved sexually with Harriet Bird. And in Max's mind, ruined Hobbs in the media.

Just my take on it, from the headlines shown after he is shot. Haven't seen it in years, just going from memory.
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3902 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:15 pm to
I think Max only threatened to expose the story later on. Roy just disappeared after it happened. I guess it was too scandalous for the day. But, I mean, he got shot and she went out the window. Weren't the other athletes killed with a silver bullet, like the one that hit Roy? You'd think they would have pieced things together and exonerated him.

I also always thought it was a stretch that Max didn't remember him. He should have changed his name.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15623 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:18 pm to
Max admits to Hobbs that he remembers him. He remembered him when he saw Roy pitch the ball into the net at practice.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:36 am to
quote:

Weren't the other athletes killed with a silver bullet, like the one that hit Roy?


yes.

quote:

He remembered him when he saw Roy pitch the ball into the net at practice.


Correct
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 5:37 am
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15134 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:41 am to
quote:

My interpretation is gus had roy shot way back when


I never picked it up because the numerous times I watched the movie I was young.

It just seems way to big of a coincidence that Gus said that sitting with Roy Hobbs,Memo (who Gus is using in the current situation to ruin Hobbs just like Harriet Bird did) and Max Mercy who called The Whammer out on 3 balls.
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