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re: The Marvel Problem (Video Essay)
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:23 pm to VinegarStrokes
Posted on 10/17/17 at 2:23 pm to VinegarStrokes
Blockbusters pay for the award bait.
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Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:12 pm to RollTide1987
I always enjoy the "it's formulaic" complaint, as if storytelling hasn't been following specific formulas since the beginning of time.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:12 pm to Freauxzen
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I think sequelitis and remake-itis are more detrimental to the modern Hollywood landscape than the MCU. And you'd have an easier time blaming Star Wars, LOTR and Harry Potter for opening that door.
James Bond, Star Trek, Godzilla, Gamera, Mothera, Pink Panther, Sherlock Holmes, The Muppets, Blondie, Perry Mason, Rin Tin Tin, Lassie, The Cisco Kid, Charley Chan, Hopalong Cassidy, The Three Mesquiteers, The Three Stooges, Ma and Pa Kettle, Tarzan, Superman, Batman, Rocky, Dirty Harry, Planet of the Apes, Herbie, National Lampoon's Vacation, Jaws, Rambo, Karate Kid, Lethal Weapon, Beverly Hills Cop, Police Academy, Alien, Dracula, Frankenstein, Hellraiser, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Halloween all say hello.
Posted on 10/17/17 at 5:20 pm to Dr RC
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James Bond, Star Trek, Godzilla, Gamera, Mothera, Pink Panther, Sherlock Holmes, The Muppets, Blondie, Perry Mason, Rin Tin Tin, Lassie, The Cisco Kid, Charley Chan, Hopalong Cassidy, The Three Mesquiteers, The Three Stooges, Ma and Pa Kettle, Tarzan, Superman, Batman, Rocky, Dirty Harry, Planet of the Apes, Herbie, National Lampoon's Vacation, Jaws, Rambo, Karate Kid, Lethal Weapon, Beverly Hills Cop, Police Academy, Alien, Dracula, Frankenstein, Hellraiser, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Halloween all say hello.
I mean sure.
But Star Wars' return, with a focus on CGI special effects and green screen, and lower "quality" narrative choices proved that blockbusters extending a world could be massively successful.
Combine that with the "Movie a Year" Approach of LOTR which was also massively successful, and a singular 8-Movie Arc story of Potter and you have the makings of the modern universe/sequel concept.
Most of the films you mentioned were just sequels, not universe/world-building films. That and making a bunch of cheap slasher films like Halloween (Slashers are like the cheapest films to make) isn't comparable to a blockbuster concept. In fact, the only stateside blockbusters on that list are Trek and Batman.
This post was edited on 10/17/17 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:52 pm to Baloo
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Ex Machina was an indie film, made by the studio A24. It is the second highest grossing film in the studio's history (behind Moonlight). Ex Machina was a massive success, even though it only made $25 million. It's not even playing in those blockbuster waters. The MCU has as much effect on A24 as McDonald's has on a Michelin rated restaurant.
By the way, A24 is an amazing studio and you should pretty much watch anything they put out right now.
For fricks sake, we are talking in generalities. I wasn't saying that MCU paid for Ex Machina specifically.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 7:45 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:43 am to VinegarStrokes
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For fricks sake, we are talking in generalities. I wasn't saying that MCU paid for Ex Machina specifically.
Calm the frick down. I think his point was that trying to claim the continued success of the MCU would limit the number of films like Ex Machina is the same as saying a new McDonald's opening up means one less gourmet restaurant in the world.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:47 am to Merck
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Calm the frick down. I think his point was that trying to claim the continued success of the MCU would limit the number of films like Ex Machina is the same as saying a new McDonald's opening up means one less gourmet restaurant in the world.
And he is wrong. The big studios fund their smaller projects from the profits of the bigger movies. That has been well documented. It may not affect indie studios, but it most definitely affects smaller movies at the larger studios.
Calm the frick down? Who is getting worked up? I simply pointed out that focusing on one small detail from a post that was speaking in generalities is asinine.
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